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Originally posted by JimOberg
Still, it's important to keep an eye open to anomalous visual stimuli on space flights...
MSNBC // June 13, 2008 // Why NASA watches out for true UFOs
today.msnbc.msn.com...
Briefing to NASA re spacecraft-generated debris and UFOs:
www.jamesoberg.com...
Reasons to keep eyes peeled out the windows (Apollo era)
www.jamesoberg.com...
Originally posted by JimOberg
I urge folks interested in these videos to look at these alternate interpretations...
Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by depthoffield
yeah it is pretty cool... shows the notched disks actually in focus while the rest is fuzzy.. No Bokehs there
Guess I will have to add it to my data and give you credit for finding more discs
Originally posted by SpiritualAwakening
reply to post by depthoffield
Very good find. It just goes to show that the tehter incident was no fluke with random particles or whatever showing up on the lens...
Originally posted by depthoffield
Hey, Zorgon, where you lost you attention?! What happened?
So you're saying this capture of similar notched disc:
is not a simple example of bokeh?!?
Originally posted by depthoffield
Sorry, Zorgon...i know you hate bokeh, since it contradicts your "critters" theory regarding STS-75 tether objects..
By the way, i guess you will never accept this, because it will make years and hundreds or even thousands of your postings here or there regarding this tether incident
Well, it was not my find, thanks, but as you see, the notched disc is not a real one, but generated by the lens... see above.
Originally posted by depthoffield
is not a simple example of bokeh?!?
In photography, bokeh (Japanese pronunciation: [boke][1][2]) is the blur,[3][2] or the aesthetic quality of the blur,[4][5][6] in out-of-focus areas of an image, or "the way the lens renders out-of-focus points of light."
Originally posted by depthoffield
As you can see, those particular discs with notches in this MIR sequence (which are unfocused images of some lights on the MIR = bokeh), are very similar with some representative tether incident discs, (of course they are similar, because they are bokeh made by the shuttle's camera in relation with objects outside of depth of field) (and similar with those pareidoliacs dropa stones/your cover magazine), are just that: not real discs, but images made by camera's lens (bokeh), which, for STS-75 objects shows that those are just very small and very close objects (debris = a trivial explanation which fit)
Originally posted by NLDelta9
I just want to know how the tether managed to be straight line and not a swirly mess like when it broke?
Originally posted by SpiritualAwakening
As far as the Kenneth Arnold magazine cover, those are not notched... they're just partly in cloud cover!
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Originally posted by mcrom901
Originally posted by depthoffield
and what is the source of the 'lights' in the above gif?
..
so are you claiming that the bokehs in the mir sequence are a result of 'debris reflecting sunlight'?
Originally posted by mcrom901
in regards to your own thread re sts-75, which you plugged here.... you still have not responded to my many posts concerning the actual data from nasa...
Originally posted by zorgon
But YOUR Bokehs don't do this
Or this... like the big one on NASA's mission control screen
Originally posted by depthoffield
Originally posted by mcrom901
and what is the source of the 'lights' in the above gif?
..
so are you claiming that the bokehs in the mir sequence are a result of 'debris reflecting sunlight'?
No, ..my pre-answer at your post-question is included into my explanation which you quoted but maybe not readed properly, but I will repeat myself: "those particular discs with notches in this MIR sequence (which are unfocused images of some lights on the MIR = bokeh), " .
Clearly they are bokeh. Including notches. Done by shuttle camera, when trying to render the unfocused sources of light (some lights onto the MIR station) .
Originally posted by depthoffield
...similar with this another example of bokeh, again from NASA shuttle (STS-6) camera C, when trying to render the unfocused reflections from some shuttle structures:
Originally posted by depthoffield
...and similar with sts-75 discs, with notches, done by shuttle camera, when trying to render the unfocused sources of light.
Originally posted by depthoffield
Bokeh in all the cases cases, from unfocuces sources of light. Which, for STS-75, obligatory means the objects are close, and small, just meters/tens of meters away (it was calculated for some representative objects).
Originally posted by depthoffield
And the astronauts what are saying just when the action took place? It is recorded on the STS-75 movie: "there is a bit of debris which kinda fly with us illuminated by the sun" (if i remember correct the sentence).
Originally posted by depthoffield
Originally posted by mcrom901
in regards to your own thread re sts-75, which you plugged here.... you still have not responded to my many posts concerning the actual data from nasa...
There is not any "data from NASA" which exclude the presence of debris...just attempts to obfuscate the simple and inevitable conclusion that those discs can't be "big/distant alien ships or critters" but just bokeh from small and close objects.
Originally posted by depthoffield
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Or do you think it is a critter ?
Originally posted by mcrom901
you still did not answer my question though i.e. "what is the source of the 'lights'" and you insist that you did so earlier by mentioning... "some lights"... o rly?
Originally posted by mcrom901
Originally posted by depthoffield
Bokeh in all the cases cases, from unfocuces sources of light. Which, for STS-75, obligatory means the objects are close, and small, just meters/tens of meters away (it was calculated for some representative objects).
"obligatory"
go back and read your thread please...
Originally posted by zorgon
Surely What you have just proven to me is that NASA Bokeh's are HEXAGONAL, which makes sense for the shutter.
Originally posted by zorgon
Since the SAME camera was used in all those NASA UFO images... this proves 100% that the notched ones cannot be bokehs as you claim.
Originally posted by zorgon
The reason this one is pulsating is the same reason the others pulsate... because the object being photographed is pulsating
Originally posted by zorgon
Now surely you don't expect people to believe that dust particles pulsate? Hmmm? Look at your clip... more pulsating ones in the distance.
Originally posted by zorgon
So what you have here is obviously an out of focus critter, showing the hexagonal bokeh.