WikiLeaks, Proven Fraud in Protecting The OS of 911!

reply to post by Ellen15

The fact is I haven’t seen any government officials arrested or jailed from any of the leaks.

Bradley Manning is in jail right now for supposedly obtaining the information

Yeah, they needed someone to take a fall, is that all you have? The man is in Jail all right and hasn’t been found guilty yet. Oh that’s right; in American everyone’s guilty before due process.

The real criminals are above the laws of the land and we all know it.

Having ‘political objective’ disqualifies Assange ‘from being considered a journalist,’ State Dept. says

Who is and is not a journalist? In a hyper-connected age where anyone and everyone can become a publisher in seconds, the word's definition seems increasingly intangible and ever-evolving.

The US State Department, however, appears to have crossed that very muddy line with its criticism of secrets outlet WikiLeaks.

Speaking to reporters recently, State Dept. Assistant Secretary Philip Rowley said that the United States does not consider WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to be a "journalist" or "whistleblower." He insisted that, under US law, he's to be considered a "political actor."

www.rawstory.com...#

So just to get to this one guy they disqualify 95% of the "media". Nice. Lets see when the first trial against fox news will then be

reply to post by burntheships




The state department.


I guess we should all listen to the state department when it comes to defining Journalism.



OMFG!

O.K. Burntheships, you just let the Government define the world for you!
Baa, Baa.

Originally posted by atlasastro
reply to post by burntheships

 

The state department.

I guess we should all listen to the state department when it comes to defining Journalism.

OMFG!

O.K. Burntheships, you just let the Government define the world for you!
Baa, Baa.

Kinda 'Hitlerish' of burntheship, isnt it

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The truth hurts, doesnt it.

What is really amazing is just how easy it has been for Assange and Wikleaks to
lead so many people to nowhere with so little truth.

Wikileaks-Julian Assange theater of the absurd is radically inauthentic.

Originally posted by burntheships
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The truth hurts, doesnt it.

What is really amazing is just how easy it has been for Assange and Wikleaks to
lead so many people to nowhere with so little truth.

Wikileaks-Julian Assange theater of the absurd is radically inauthentic.

You cant handle the truth!

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reply to burntheships

Any more News from you buddies at the State Department Burntheships?

Or have you any more comments from the MSM that you can regurgitate in order to present the illusion that you have an opinion of your own?

Perhaps you can edit material in order to manufacture an argument, one based in disingenuous intent and deliberate manipulation of the truth in order to simply create support for your numerous and false accusations?

Also, I am still waiting for you to present just ONE wiki release that fails to comply with the standard you have set!

I am also waiting for the OP to present just ONE wiki release that was faked to support the OS of 9/11.

The TRUTH of the matter is, that neither you or the OP can so much as scrape together anything but rhetoric, lies, false accusations and deliberate dis-information.

In saying that, it is little wonder that you need the State Department and Blogs and various MSM in order to support your fallacious, illigical and poorly constructed arguments!

That is the truth.

What is even more amusing is that whilst you regurgitate material from the State Department, MSM and opinionated blogs you have the nerve to accuse others of being fooled "followers" of Wiki and Asaange.

I think you need to look at your X-ray again.
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Or is this simply the I.D. photo the State Department took for you?

reply to post by atlasastro

You accuse people “of manipulation of the truth,” yet you do not know what the truth is.

The TRUTH of the matter is, that neither you or the OP can so much as scrape together anything but rhetoric, lies, false accusations and deliberate dis-information.

That is completely untrue and you know that, it is not our problem that you continue to hand wave all the evidence that was presented in here.

Why don’t you demonstrate with credible evidence (sources) to how the OP and burntheships has lied to you?

Why don’t you present credible evidence to how the OP and burntheships has made up lies, false accusations and deliberate dis-information?

I doubt that you can answer my questions, because you are expressing yourself from a belief system, perhaps created from the very thing you accuse others of regurgitating, such as (MSM.)

You might want to do some real research before you start calling people a liar.
You have not disproved a single piece of evidence that has been presented in here against Julian Assange.

Originally posted by impressme
reply to post by atlasastro

 

You accuse people “of manipulation of the truth,” yet you do not know what the truth is.

I have not made accusations, I have proven this to be fact. You manipulated the truth.

Why don’t you demonstrate with credible evidence (sources) to how the OP and burntheships has lied to you?

No problem.
Here you go:
Your entire OP is a spin, you use a source unrelated to Wiki in anyshape or form that you have misunderstood, and a quote from Assange in order to perpetuate the accusation that Wiki is fabricating material to support the OS of 9/11.


Again, please provide a link to a WIKILEAKS release that is faked to be supportive of the OS of 9/11.
Here is the link to Wiki in order for you to show us here on ATS that Wiki releases material that supports the OS of 9/11.
wikileaks.ch...
There is a link to the entire Archive on that page, you can download it and show us the material you accuse Wiki of faking to support the OS 9/11.

Again, please provide evidence that proves these leaks, that you claim are from Wiki, are faked in order to support the OS of 9/11.

I will remind you AGAIN, of your claim in the OP.
These are your words.

WikiLeaks, Proven Fraud in Protecting The OS of 911!

New evidence has surfaced proven WikiLeaks, a fraud in concocting reports to prop up the OS of 911.

post by impressme

The reality is though, is that you have confused an Article WRITTEN by Sibel relating to the "FBI informants" memorandum releases, with STATEMENTS made by SIbel.
You fail.
Sibel is REPORTING, she is the REPORTER, she has written the REPORT you link.
The MATERIAL, she is REPORTING in the REPORT that she REPORTED differs from HER personal statements relating to 9/11.
When you comprehend that, you may start to see some convergence between reality and your ability to percieve it.
Let me break it down for you.

I am not surprised at the stupidity of WikiLeaks to think the American people have short term memories, of who is Sibel Edmonds, and what profound role she played in outing the governments’ lies of their boogieman OBL as being the Mastermind to 911. Yet in an interview on the Mike Malloy Show back in 7/31/2009, Sibel Edmonds blew the whistle, that Bin Laden was working for the United States all the way up to 911.

post by impressme

We all know who Sibel is now? Right!
Now lets look at the Source from the ATS thread you linked.
The FBI "Kamikaze Pilots" Case; Omitted From 911 Commission Report- Article by Sibel Edmonds

www.opednews.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The FBI "Kamikaze Pilots" Case; Omitted From 911 Commission Report
By Sibel Edmonds (about the author)[

The article is BY Sibel.
Yet you seem to think the material in the article REPORTED by SIBEL is somehow faked and that this report is linked to WIKI.

The FBI "Kamikaze Pilots" Case; Omitted From 911 Commission Report- Article by Sibel Edmonds

Is not the work or admissions from Sibel Edmonds, the facts speak for themselves.

And you are right in the above statement, the article BY SIbel is not related to the ADMISSIONS of SIBEL but they are related to this:

In a public statement issued on Monday, January 31, members of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee demanded a prompt response from the former Chairman and the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission regarding Former FBI Language Specialist Behrooz Sarshar's censored testimony to the Commission. The former commissioners failed to respond to this request.

SIBEL IS REPORTING ON THIS MATERIAL.
It has nothing to do with SIBELS PERSONAL ADMISSIONS.

NOW.

If you can please provide evidence as to how this article REPORTED by SIBEL who is REPORTING on THIS:

Other than that, the information below is exactly what was recounted by Mr. Sarshar on four occasions:

www.opednews.com... is somehow faked by wiki I would appreciate it.

So, in summary.
Please provide the links to WIKI that relate to the WIKI releases that support the OS of 9/11.
Please provie the evidence that they are fake.

Please show that this article By SIBEL, is faked by WIKI.
www.opednews.com...

Please explain why you think Sibel reporting on the statements of Mr. Sarshar in this articleare some how evidence that Sibels admissions and personal statements have been attacked by Wiki in order to support the OS of 9/11.

If you want to "play ignorant" then I hope you don’t mind if I don't respond.

You did respond, with nothing but more accusations and opinion.
To infer that I am a debunker is as absurd as the weak correlations and innuendo you have constructed in your OP. There is nothing to debunk.
Again, please provide the evidence to support your statements.
Please enlighten me if you do believe I am playing ignorant!

WikiLeaks, Proven Fraud in Protecting The OS of 911!

New evidence has surfaced proven WikiLeaks, a fraud in concocting reports to prop up the OS of 911.

post by impressme

Why don’t you present credible evidence to how the OP and burntheships has made up lies, false accusations and deliberate dis-information?

I just did so in regards to your OP AGAIN!
O.K.
For Burntheships:post by atlasastro

I doubt that you can answer my questions, because you are expressing yourself from a belief system, perhaps created from the very thing you accuse others of regurgitating, such as (MSM.)

Dude, I have answered EVERY post you have addresses to me. Point to one post where I source MSM. I simply don't. I have used all the material YOU and Burntheships have posted, and I have linked Wiki in order for you to provide us here on ATS with some factual evidence to support both your arguments.
Both you and Burntheships have failed to simply shoe Wiki behaving in the manner that you claim.

You have continuously ignored my requests to simply supply this as per you accustaions, AND you have simply ignored my posts.
Instead of doing that you now attack me, this is the typical cowardice I would expect so I am not surprised nor distracted by this tactic and it simply reeks of the desperation of a feeble intellect unable to withstand the scrutiny that logic and truth has applied to you, OP.
Once again, all you need to do is this:

Please reply with a link to any wiki releases that support the OS of 9/11.
Please supply evidence that these are false.
Please show how Wiki is responsible for Sibels article relating to material you link, and provide evidence that Wiki has fraudulently created this to support the OS. of 9/11.

Pretty simply really.

The truth is that you cannot simply provide ATS members with any material that supports your false acussations.
Otherwise you would have by now. That is the truth.

You might want to do some real research before you start calling people a liar.
You have not disproved a single piece of evidence that has been presented in here against Julian Assange.

I know I have not disproved anything, because I am simply showing that you actually have proven nothing to begin with. All you have is a correlation of mis-information that you have deliberately constructed in order to make a false accustaion.
I have proven that. So there is no need to disprove you accustaion because they it is blindingly obvious that they are false and illogical.


I suspect you will probably reply with more inane slobber instead of simply showing this:
Please reply with a link to any wiki releases that support the OS of 9/11.
Please supply evidence that these are false.
Please show how Wiki is responsible for Sibels article relating to material you link, and provide evidence that Wiki has fraudulently created this to support the OS. of 9/11.

reply to post by atlasastro

Why don’t you present credible evidence to how the OP and burntheships has made up lies, false accusations and deliberate dis-information?

I just did so in regards to your OP AGAIN!
O.K.
For Burntheships:post by atlasastro

You have not answered any of my questions proving that I am liar, much less anything else, you have a nice day.

reply to post by impressme




Please reply with a link to any wiki releases that support the OS of 9/11.
Please supply evidence that these are false.
Please show how Wiki is responsible for Sibels article relating to material you link, and provide evidence that Wiki has fraudulently created this to support the OS. of 9/11.

Pretty simply really.

The truth is that you cannot simply provide ATS members with any material that supports your false acussations and deliberate lies.

reply to post by impressme


A new expose on Wikleaks...worth the watch.

The film also includes an interview with former number two and spokesperson of the WikiLeaks team Daniel Domscheit-Berg before he opens his own whistle-blowing website and publishes a novel about “his time at the world’s most dangerous website”. Daniel is now a “dissident” after quitting the company. His claim is that the organisation is too centred on the figure of Julian Assange and that there was a rush to unleash big news stories in lieu of steadily building up the organisation.

WikiLeaks: War, Lies and Videotape airs Sunday, 13 February 2011 at 21:50 on Discovery Channel (DStv, Channel 121).


DSTV.com about WikiLeaks: War, Lies and Videotape
www.dstv.com...

Where exactly have you watched this documentary? I cant find the video.

reply to post by impressme



Every mainstream media and country leader play along well with the whole Wikileaks charade. But none spit a word to support 911 truthers.

Wikileaks is a high-level psyops designed to represent the ugly alternative media. While it has exposed some correct information which were nothing "earth-shaking", it has also spread bigger hatred and lies. My first suspicion was that Wikileaks cables were too easy and too good to be true. Eventually, the ultimate test subject (911) unveiled the wolf under sheep's clothing.

We should strongly denounce Wikileaks as another covert operation. Spread the truth to our children, friends and loved ones.

reply to post by wisdomnotemotion


Just goes to show how little people understand just how wiki got the diplomatic cables.
It was because of 9/11.
After 9/11, the entire US military and intelligence agencies, as well as including foreign offices including many state department branches, intergrated their information so that sharing all intel would give troops and military interests as much real time info as possible.

It was a fundamental change from systems of "need to know" to a new protocol of "need to share".
Look at Executive orders 13311, 13356, 13388 as examples of this change in mindset. Look at the PATRIOT act, you will see it included in there under section 218 which enables inteligence sharing with law enforcement agencies as another example.
All POST 9/11.

It was because of all these changes that Manning was able to access so much info, BUT it was all AFTER 9/11.

For f#$% sake people just do a little bit of decent research. Just for once.

PRIOR to 9/11 all agencies had seperate and independent information systems, and control over who saw what and when.
AFTER 9/11 this changed.

But don't let the truth get in the way of your paranoia and fear guys.

9/11 was an inside job, the plane that was said crashed into WTC actually landed.

reply to post by atlasastro

But don't let the truth get in the way of your paranoia and fear guys.

Especially the people who defend the OS lies, if anything they are many of the one’s displaying paranoia and fear in finding out their government committed treason by pulling off a false flag operation and covering it up. Many particotic Americans will not look at the scientific evidence that proves the OS is all hogwash, many cannot allow their beliefs system to be compromised.

i dont think that wikileaks has proven to be a cia front, but alot of things sure make me think that they are backed by the oligarchs