Slush fund accounts of major US politicians identified and seized at Vatican Bank (Rome).

the pair of names Watanabe and Yamaguchi are straight from of japanesepod101 arent they? adding: many japanese pods starts with Watashi wa Yamaguchi Chigusa desu. Yoroshiku onegai shimasu. Yoshi：Hajimema#e. Watashi wa Watanabe Yoshihiro desu. Yoroshiku onegai shimasu... these names are probably fake.

I for one have no problem thinking this may be true, the Vatican has for centuries been used and have used others for their own benefit. Control has been they're goal all along and now that most people don't take the Vatican seriously and actually think for themselves maybe a better way is to give money to people who have the power. Just a thought, maybe a little behind the scenes control?

Originally posted by KnowledgeIsPowre
Why would the Vatican bank agree/comply with a US federal gov RICO charge, especially one that exposes all those people? This doesnt make much sense on a basic level to me.

Because they are also illegally involved..

By cooporating they remain out of the spotlight when SHTF....

It looks like Sorcha Faal has a rival.

Originally posted by VonDoomen
I figure this is relevant to the thread-

Chief Justice Clarence Thomas is revising his last 13 tax returns.

Could Thomas be trying to come clean before this story goes supernova?

You have misunderstood the article you linked to and renamed. He did not include his Wife's income in his annual financial disclosures, a requirement of his office. It's like what happened to Senator Stevens. It's just a disclosure document. It is totally unrelated to taxes or not paying or paying them. He simply chose to not comply with providing his Wife's personal financial information on an annual report.

I see no way this could be even remotely relevant to this topic?

My guess is the only reason it is being floated out there is that the Left is trying to one up the Right by destroying this man and gaining another seat in the Supreme Court now, in case Obama looses in 2012.

On Topic -

What? This is and endless loop of Blogs posting each others story without a source seemingly existing anywhere? I've been back and forth, back and forth. Some sources even cite each other going in both directions and they all have the exact same text.

Originally posted by Kailassa
It looks like Sorcha Faal has a rival.

Yes it does.

There are going to be more politicians and elites in trouble, looks like a disgruntled employee is going to hand over more information on tax evaders in switzerland..

Two years ago when the US bailed out UBS and Switzerland from a brief but potentially terminal liquidity crisis, it succeeded in extracting a historic pound of flesh: it forced UBS to declassify thousands of bank accounts of US tax evaders which was the first nail in the centuries-old concept of Swiss bank secrecy. Today, Rudolf Elmer, a former COO of one of the biggest Swiss banks, Julius Baer, may have just nailed the last, and with that set off a chain reaction that will force a huge outcry against pervasive global tax fraud (but likely achieve nothing ultimatel). According to the Guardian, tomorrow Elmer will hand over details of 2,000 "high net worth individuals and corporations" to WikiLeaks which will make him "the most important and boldest whistleblower in Swiss banking history." And since among those exposed will be "approximately 40 politicians" expect all hell to break loose as photos of Assange having a underage orgy with Al Qaeda members are suddenly made public to diffuse what is bound to be another huge (if brief - after all human kind cannot bear very much reality).

Full article below.

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Yes if you read the article it says that he had STOPPED putting his wife in his disclosure form in 1996/7.
I think we should ask why he stopped doing it since it seems rather strange?

And secondly, dont try putitng that left/right crap on me lol like im some democratic operative involved in some secret mission to destroy this man. Check my post history, You'll see i've evolved beyond the left/right paradigm.

I posted the article because It seemed possible with the timing that the two could of been related, and that was what I was pursuing. I will admit i breezed through the article quickly as i was in a rush before class.

sure hope this doesn't evolve like the Calvi Affair ... but, it wouldn't be surprising if it did.
www.voxfux.com...

There are plenty of theories about the Calvi Affair.
One is that Banco Ambrosiano was used by Calvi and Gelli to funnel huge sums of money to regimes throughout Latin America which were friendly to both the US government and the Vatican.

Some of these regimes, it is theorized, were also deeply involved in the international drug trade -- hence the interest of organized criminal groups throughout Italy and elsewhere.
It certainly wouldn’t be the first time where the interests of nation states, gangsters, the Vatican and intelligence services overlapped.

When Fidel Castro came to power in Cuba in 1959, for instance, all of these different groups were losers; the drug trade ground to a halt, casinos owned by mobsters were shut down, foreign corporations booted out, and thousands of Vatican priests hurried out of the country.
We know that in just one transaction, this out of probably hundreds, Calvi diverted $65 million from an Ambrosiano corporation in Peru to a numbered account in Zurich Switzerland which was owned by Liccio Gelli. Another transaction diverted $30 million to Flavio Carboni.

Earlier, I mentioned that Gelli negotiated the sale of Exocet missiles from France to Argentina, that was paid for by another Ambrosiano-Calvi transaction, and some of it came from the Vatican bank. David Yallop, in his book about the death of John Paul I titled “IN GOD’s NAME,” says that over $100 million was funneled from the Vatican to the Solidarity movement in Poland -- and this was all taking place while Pope John Paul II, Karol Wojtyla, was excoriating Nicaraguan priests for getting involved in politics.

Another theory may well have been one that Calvi believed in, perhaps even up to the moment of his death. According to sworn depositions from his family, Calvi blamed “the priests”, men like Ortolani and Marcinkus, groups perhaps like Opus Dei, and certainly those men like Flavio Carboni who straddled the gulf between Liccio Gelli and Propaganda Due on one side, and the Vatican on the other.

By this theory, the Vatican “made a killing” and reaped huge sums of money by illegal offshore banking schemes, “peekaboo” finance, “anstalten” and other questionable financial devices.
It also bought enormous political influence and protection, because every single political party in Italy, and this includes the Christian Democrats, the Socialists and even the Communists, all of them were beholden to Banco Ambrosiano. And after doing all of that, it refused to bail out Roberto Calvi, and left him out to dry with a $1.3 billion debt and the certainty of a life in prison.

bad behavior all around is nothing new. the misdeeds of the Vatican are unfortunately repeated time and time again. the politicians ?? well, nothing good is expected of them (at least not in my lifetime) and as for the remaining thieves, i hope they all get their due.

Originally posted by VonDoomen
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

Yes if you read the article it says that he had STOPPED putting his wife in his disclosure form in 1996/7.
I think we should ask why he stopped doing it since it seems rather strange?

And secondly, dont try putitng that left/right crap on me lol like im some democratic operative involved in some secret mission to destroy this man. Check my post history, You'll see i've evolved beyond the left/right paradigm.

I posted the article because It seemed possible with the timing that the two could of been related, and that was what I was pursuing. I will admit i breezed through the article quickly as i was in a rush before class.

star for you because i agree it is relevant.
more often than not our 'leaders' are deciding IF and WHEN they will follow the rules they've been appointed to enforce.
Stevens and Roberts should both be removed, immediately.

Providing false information on most Federal forms is a Felony.
The story says -->

Like all federal judges, Thomas must file annual disclosure reports on his personal finances, but he had omitted details of his wife’s earnings in what he wrote was a “misunderstanding of the filing instructions.” He also had checked a box marking no spousal income.

so, since 1991 and for 5 consecutive years ... Justice Thomas followed the same instructions regarding disclosure and all of a sudden, in 1996 he misunderstood, but, he also never sought advice or clarification until now ... i sure wonder why ??

Choosing to believe is your choice but the truth is what it is ... lies, deceit, thievery, malfeasance and downright treasonous. don't know about the rest of America, but i'm just not that gullible anymore and i hope more Americans are seeing the truth before them.

I'm surprised Obama didn't mention any of this in his state of the union tonight?

reply to post by EssenSieMich


Chatter has it the story broke with Bob Chapman's Investment Letter. There are many links to the story, but nothing main stream. If true, lame stream media is blacked out and thinking about a cover up no doubt.

But think about it. If the story is true, who the heck is going to go after the gangsters like Supreme Court Judge Roberts, Bush, Clinton, Geitner, and the Usurper and Chief Barry and his family? This gang makes Capone look like a five and dime operation. They got the courts, they got the guns, and they got the money. This gang doesn't need a dream team. They are the dream team for psychopathic criminals. They kill babies. They get you fired. They Arkincide you. They kill millions with illegal wars. They rob the Treasury and the tax payer.

Who the heck is going to bring this mob down?

Their biggest ally is they will win because the few good people left dare not do anything. Would you?

reply to post by beijingyank


Yes, i would.

"For me, give me liberty, or give me death".

It is a slap in the face to every person who has spilled blood for our nation to be timid in the face of a despotic regime.

On Wednesday 5th January 2011, it emerged that US establishment-related slush fund accounts had been located in, and seized from, the Vatican Bank in Rome. The source of funds for these accounts in almost every instance was found to be the US Treasury.

Beneficiaries of the covert Vatican accounts include Barack Obama, Michelle Obama and each of the Obama children, Michelle Obama’s mother, all the Bushes and the Clintons, including Chelsea Clinton, Joe Biden, Timothy Geithner, Janet Napolitano, several US Senators, including Mitch McConnell, several US Congressmen including John Boehner, several US Military Chiefs of Staff, the US Provost Marshal, the US Judge Advocate General, the US Supreme Court Chief Justice, John Roberts, several US Judges, the Pope, and several cardinals.



Ok ... looks like this story has fallen of a cliff. Anyone heard any new details? Can we verify that a RICO confiscation did take place at the Vatican bank? What about criminal charges?