It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Health Authorities Want Depression-Causing Drugs Added To Water Supply

page: 2
17
<< 1   >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 08:15 AM
link   
Right on track Big Bother! Keep 'em coming...


Most anyonr who has tried these drugs will tell you that it alters your mood and your demeanor. You experience what is called a "false sense of well being". Your ability to be empathetic diminishes as well.

What better way for the government to double the shaft we have been getting already and hear less complaints? They want to create complacency in society so they can continue to p*ss down our backs and try to convince us it's raining.

And as usual... all for our benefit.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 08:24 AM
link   
I fill my water at a natural spring locally.....for free!!! I havent gottan sick from it yet...*knocks on wood*....it might do you all well to find a local spring to fill up on water. They are all over the place.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 08:27 AM
link   
reply to post by mutantgenius
 


Good idea, but it would be wise to research the spring a little bit, find out the aquifer source and the depth of the spring. Also maybe take a sample in for testing. Some springs can be shallow and full of pollutants from storm water run off, but if you can find a good deep spring, then it could be a great source!



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 08:37 AM
link   
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
 


Cut the flouride, add some statins. Guess the statins work better. Makes sense to me.

One question:

What filters pharmaceuticals out of water? Effectively?


S&F



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 08:45 AM
link   
If there is a God, please destroy America for poisoning it's own people.

The Satanic worshipping Mason's are afraid of the citizens because now we know they've robbed us and bankrupted the country....so they're waging warfare against the citizens by poisoning the water supply.

They fired first.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 09:00 AM
link   
reply to post by Pervius
 


I am a Mason, and an American, and even a Government Worker!

Luckily, I talked to God just this morning, like I do every morning, and night, and he is ignoring your ridiculous comments.

The corporations and corrupt politicians are poisoning the water, not the Masons, and not the typical Americans, and it is still the greatest place on Earth, we just have some housecleaning to do.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 09:08 AM
link   
Most on this thread should remember just a couple years ago when the AP did an investigation on the chemical content of municipal water supplies of 35 major cities in the US. Big news articles and even blurbs on the MSM. Lasted all of maybe 1 week. Many major cities refused to let their water supply be tested. I don't remember even one politician who spoke up and ran with the story. If there was one, they are most likely not in politics anymore.
What does that tell you?

What I heard after that expose was, allegedly the healthiest mayor in the country, RT Ryback of St. Paul, MN, encouraging all his constituents to drink the tap water. Its free and healthy. What a crock.

I also remember a public push a long time ago how everyone should flush their expired and unwanted 'medications' down the toilet. Anyone else remember that?



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 10:15 AM
link   
These experts want statins in the water for our own good. To lower cholesterol, etc. But, just to inform you here are some major side effects of this drug class;

rhabdomyolysis (muscles fall apart, cause much pain, lack of movement)
upper respiratory infections
baldness
thrombocytopenia (less ability to clot blood)

Maybe most concerning is that most of these statins (if not all) are considered pregnancy category X, meaning there is known harm to the fetus. Moms need to make cholesterol during gestation.
Statins & Pregnancy

How can pregnant/women of that age avoid this if it's in the water?

Taking a prescription drug is something each individual needs to determine based on their personal risks and benefits and speak with their doctor, not something to be blindly forced onto them.

There is a reason the FDA didn't allow these to go over the counter, now they are trying to put it in the water line, perplexing.


Some birth-defects specialists say they are concerned about the possibility of a cholesterol-lowering statin drug going over the counter, a move to be considered today and Friday by a Food and Drug Administration advisory committee. In a joint venture with Johnson & Johnson, drugmaker Merck has asked the FDA for permission to make Mevacor, the brand name for lovastatin, available without a prescription. The companies hope to market a 20-milligram daily dose to men 45 and older and women 55 and older, the ages at which cardiovascular disease risk begins to rise. Over-the-counter Mevacor would widen access to cholesterol treatment, thereby helping to reduce the number of Americans who have heart attacks, Merck argues. The FDA classifies Mevacor and other statins as pregnancy category X, which means they are not supposed to be taken by pregnant women. Not only have category X drugs been linked to fetal abnormalities in animal or human studies, but the FDA also has declared that the benefits of taking them do not outweigh potential risks.

Full Story



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 10:35 AM
link   
reply to post by BenIndaSun
 



The companies hope to market a 20-milligram daily dose to men 45 and older and women 55 and older, the ages at which cardiovascular disease risk begins to rise.


There are other studies that show statins actually increase the risk of heart attack and stroke in elderly patients. All the previous studies were done on middle aged men after their first heart attack, and the statins lowered their risk of a second heart attack, however studies were not done on elderly patients, and recent data shows that the patients taking statins were MORE likely to have fatal heartattacks or strokes.

So, maybe this is another part of the new Healthcare plan? Keep the healthy people healthy and finish the elderly off quicker? Could fix heathcare and social security all in one.......dose.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 01:24 PM
link   

From youtube
Heavy metals such as barium and aluminum can build up in the lungs over time. Combine that with powerful RF energy and those metals heat up. This could cause the capillaries in the lungs to burst killing the animal. They would basically drown in their own blood. Death by asphyxiation.


This user suggests this is the cause of mass animal deaths worldwide right now. Who's to say this can't be done to us? Poison us unknowingly, then finish us off with HAARP.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 01:26 PM
link   
reply to post by Pervius
 


Its different to say Satanic Rothschilds and Rockefellers than Satanic Masons. Not all Masons are satanic. I learned this the hard way.



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 01:30 PM
link   
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me. Why would "authorities" poison their own water supply?



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 01:44 PM
link   
reply to post by dfens
 


Yes...that's what I was talking about...along with statins and anti-depressants, even hormones were creeping into the water supply at alarming rates from what I remember. I'm sure this was discussed somewhere around here....

One good thing to do if you can afford it is to put a powerful filtering system on the intake to your home...the kind with ultraviolet and sand and charcoal and even chlorine and all that and hope it catches most of this junk. (We have one and so does my dad, but I'm not too technical about things like this.)
edit on 1/21/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 02:55 PM
link   
reply to post by dalan.
 


I watched part one of the video you posted and I can't get the smell of Scientology out of my house now....
moving on....


The first thing I noticed was the narrators voice and tone. It's not unlike the voice over for a horror movie trailer. They are using many psychological tricks to denounce psychiatry. While I realize the two terms represent different things there are are several commonalities and I found their tactics amusing. I agree that there is a growing problem of over diagnosis but to imply that the field offers no legitimate benefits to those in need of help is, I believe disingenuous. To keep it simple I'll use clinical depression as an example of a real condition that can be helped and in some cases totally alleviated with proper treatment involving medication. Clinical depression isn't feeling a bit blue or having a stretch of bad days. It is an anguishing state to be in. It doesn't get better with an "atta boy" at work or with trying to look on the bright side. One cannot will one's self out of it and like many other conditions, both psychological and more traditionally medical it can be next to impossible to relate to without experiencing it first hand.
I don't claim to know the whys of depression. It may in fact be caused by environmental factors or inherited or by any number of factors but it is real and it is indeed painful. It can also be treated successfully. All meds have side effects and down sides to their use.


STH


I'm sorry for the off topic post. I was stirred to comment on that vid.
edit on 21-1-2011 by stopthathurts because: add



posted on Jan, 21 2011 @ 04:15 PM
link   
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
 


Yes, I just put a water filter system in my house.....and you can not imagine the difference in your skin and hair after using filtered water vs. tap water. Someone recently did a study and found over 150 pharma drugs in our water in addition to the elements that are poisening us (ie murcery....ect..)



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 02:42 AM
link   
reply to post by stopthathurts
 



I watched part one of the video you posted and I can't get the smell of Scientology out of my house now....
moving on....


That's a pitiful argument for whatever point you were trying to make. Scientology has nothing to do with that documentary.


Condemnation before investigation is the height of ignorance. -Albert Einstein



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 11:31 PM
link   
reply to post by dalan.
 


Scientology has a decidedly anti-psychology stance and agenda. That's all I was getting at.

I've studied these drugs for years and years and I'm curious as to what you think about the rest of the post.
I have investigated more than most. So please let me know where I was "ignorant".

STH



posted on Jan, 22 2011 @ 11:52 PM
link   

Originally posted by stopthathurts
reply to post by dalan.
 


Scientology has a decidedly anti-psychology stance and agenda. That's all I was getting at.


Hmmm...well thank God that video wasn't anti-psychology. You do realize that psychology and psychiatry are two different fields right? Psychologists study the mind to unlock its secrets and to actually understand human behavior. Psychiatrists are merely the ground troops for pill companies to distribute their experimental behavior modifiers.


I've studied these drugs for years and years and I'm curious as to what you think about the rest of the post. I have investigated more than most. So please let me know where I was "ignorant".


You were ignorant because you brushed off the documentary for "reeking of Scientology" without even watching it. If you have studied psychotropic drugs extensively then you should be well aware of the negative effects that they have on human beings.



posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 12:12 AM
link   

Originally posted by stopthathurts
reply to post by dalan.
 


They are using many psychological tricks to denounce psychiatry. While I realize the two terms represent different things there are are several commonalities and I found their tactics amusing.


There are no commonalities between the two. Like I said, psychologists study to actually understand the human mind so that we can grow. Psychiatrists merely memorize the DSM-IV so they can match arbitrary symptoms together to push pills for the pharmaceutical companies.



I agree that there is a growing problem of over diagnosis but to imply that the field offers no legitimate benefits to those in need of help is, I believe disingenuous.


I would certainly make the claim that they offer absolutely no legitimate benefits to humanity, especially considering that their is absolutely no science backing either psychiatry or psychotropic drugs. And the "studies" that do get published are always bs because the people pushing them are in bed with one another. Whether that's members of the FDA who are also psychiatrists that own market share in pharmaceuticals.



To keep it simple I'll use clinical depression as an example of a real condition that can be helped and in some cases totally alleviated with proper treatment involving medication.


No, "clinical depression" is complete and utter fantasy. Its one of those arbitrary disorders that gets added to the DSM-IV just so pharmaceutical companies can make more money.



Clinical depression isn't feeling a bit blue or having a stretch of bad days. It is an anguishing state to be in. It doesn't get better with an "atta boy" at work or with trying to look on the bright side. One cannot will one's self out of it and like many other conditions, both psychological and more traditionally medical it can be next to impossible to relate to without experiencing it first hand.


I have been diagnosed with clinical depression and its an absolute joke when you take a step back and look at it. EVERYONE on planet Earth, at one point in their lives, can be diagnosed with clinical depression. The definitions in the DSM-IV are so vague they can apply to anyone. The best thing that happened to me in regards to my depression wasn't the Remeron they were giving me, it was the moment I stopped feeling sorry for myself. Because that's all it really comes down to. There is absolutely zero science behind any of the broad and vague terms/disorders that makeup the entire DSM-IV. And for good reason. It would be extremely difficult to sell drugs without disorders.



I don't claim to know the whys of depression. It may in fact be caused by environmental factors or inherited or by any number of factors but it is real and it is indeed painful.


Feeling sorry for yourself is painful, its also not a disorder.



It can also be treated successfully. All meds have side effects and down sides to their use.


The meds themselves are a huge downside, . People do not need drugs modifying their neurological chemistry in any way. Especially when those drugs aren't being tested and we're being used as guinea pigs. Getting out and getting active in life, or even something as simple as keeping a journal, is the greatest way to overcome depression.





I'm sorry for the off topic post. I was stirred to comment on that vid.
edit on 21-1-2011 by stopthathurts because: add




top topics



 
17
<< 1   >>

log in

join