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Originally posted by TheAmused
reply to post by badw0lf
You got to be the biggest idiot i have ever seen try to troll.
Originally posted by SNAFU38
Thats been the law here in Australia for a while & theres no problems with it.
Seriously, if you cant make that tiny sacrifice for your kids health something is wrong.
Originally posted by lostviking
Of course, if we ban smoking in cars, next it will be in the home. Then it will be no junk food in the car, no chemicals in the home, etc....
Originally posted by TheAmused
Originally posted by StarLightStarBright2
I'm a smoker and think its a good idea.......I live in calif and think we might have that law......I have not smoked around kids or adults who do not smoke in many many yrs.....We also do not smoke in the house.....If my grandkids are out side when we smoke we make them go inside or in another area so as not to be near the smoke.If everyone did THIS we would not need this law.....Unfortunately many don't care and subject others and kids to there smoking.
Lol you make your grand kids go in the house when your outside in the open air ?
Dude you are beat and broken man.
Do you tell your grandkid's to put on a gas mask when you pass gas ?
Or when you start your car?
Common...
Your care put's of more toxin's as you drive down the street kid's in stoller's breathe it.
Doesnt make you a bad guy lol
DOES IT?
A cigarette put's off 1000000 less emission's than the best car's exhaust.
LOL
this is why i don't live in California...
No offense.
Originally posted by badw0lf
Originally posted by TheAmused
reply to post by badw0lf
You got to be the biggest idiot i have ever seen try to troll.
I'll take that as you just do not get it.
great,
Now sod off.....
Originally posted by TheAmused
reply to post by SNAFU38
i am not making my kid's suffer.
I am sick and tired of this tired old diatribe.
CHANCE CHANCE CHANCE
they have a bigger chance of getting hit by a car...Should i not allow them to go outside anymore sir?
You got to see my point here...
I never said i smoke around my kid's..
I said if i wanted to..i have a right..if it's in my home and my car...i OWN them.....
They are my children to raise as i see fit.
It is not abuse..NOR has it ever been in the entire existence of cigarettes been called abuse to smoke with kid's present.
TO label as such now after what 1500 years or more is flat absurd dont you think?
But not a soul her care's if dad or mom drink's beer or whine every day in front of there kid's.
Should we ban sale's of alcohol ?
Or just make it illegal for parents to drink around there kid's?
it teaches them its ok to drink..daddy drink's 3 beers at the bar every night before he come home hunny...
I said if i wanted to..i have a right..if it's in my home and my car...i OWN them.....
They are my children to raise as i see fit.
I
Originally posted by NonKonphormist
I said if i wanted to..i have a right..if it's in my home and my car...i OWN them.....
They are my children to raise as i see fit.
I
I'm sorry to break this to you, but if you have registered your car with the government, then you don't own your car, you are just the registered keeper or the car and TPTB can take it from you when ever they feel like it.
Same goes for your children, if you have registered their births and got birth certificates, you don't own them, the state does, you gave them to the state and the state has the right to tell you how to look after their property. They can also take them from you if they choose or if they have reason to believe you are not looking after their property how they want you to.edit on 17/1/11 by NonKonphormist because: to do editing type stuff
Originally posted by sara123123
reply to post by TheAmused
States will be passing more intrusive rules and laws to entrap people for fines and fees. Sin taxes are going to sky rocket as a new revenue stream.
Originally posted by Cincykid
Originally posted by NonKonphormist
I said if i wanted to..i have a right..if it's in my home and my car...i OWN them.....
They are my children to raise as i see fit.
I
I'm sorry to break this to you, but if you have registered your car with the government, then you don't own your car, you are just the registered keeper or the car and TPTB can take it from you when ever they feel like it.
Same goes for your children, if you have registered their births and got birth certificates, you don't own them, the state does, you gave them to the state and the state has the right to tell you how to look after their property. They can also take them from you if they choose or if they have reason to believe you are not looking after their property how they want you to.edit on 17/1/11 by NonKonphormist because: to do editing type stuff
What? I like to inform you that he does own his car. Registration is so you can get tags to legally drive it, but you can own an unregisterd car and keep it in you garage and it wouldn't be against the law and no, TPTB cannot just take it whenever the want as long as no illegal action is being perfomed.
The state doesn't own people, especially when the court hasn't awarded custody to the state and if so, that will only do until the children turn 18. Finally, The government doensn't own your house, it has no right to tell you what to do in your home any more than I.
Do you live in China or miss the old USSR? Just wondering.....