posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 07:21 AM
Re Saltheart Foamfollower
You wrote
["Just remember though, the basis of my rancor is not that there is a separation of church and state, but that the state permeates everything. Which
inherently leads to......................."]
As you may have noticed and remember, my own rantings are usually from the perspective of liberal society, which I rather insistently defend against
all elitism.
And I DO live in a liberal model nation (at least compared to most of the planet), where the promises of liberalism have been reasonably well kept.
Ofcourse such a big compromise as national liberal democratic society requires some individual sacrifices, but I can live with that. The main problem
here is, that the compromise-attitude has developed into a benevolent bureaucracy (administrators are helpful and friendly etc), where details are
regulated with nitpicking pedantry. We are drowning in adminstration, which seems to run on Parkinson's law mechanisms.
So in this respect I can sympathize with attitudes of less authority interference. But that's not quite the same, as when liberal society puts a limit
to elitist interests (sometimes privilege demands) because that part concerns the basic liberal 'system' per se.
The basis of this thread, praying/non-praying at authority-based meetings, is from the pro-praying side nothing more than a propaganda maneuver,
raising a storm in a glass of water. Anyone can see, that practical compromise solutions are easy and at hand, so the principle-fight is in this
context quite out of proportion. In my opinion only the rather ridiculous 'whining' faction making meaningless noise. Had the issue been churchbells
chiming very loudly around the clock or muslim prayer-callers making noise-pollution early in the morning (or whenever they do it) in domestic areas,
that would have been something to argue about.
Not insistence on demonstrating personal holiness in public, implicating others in it, when there are reasonable alternative options.
edit on 20-1-2011 by bogomil because: spelling etc