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Rendlesham forest binary code decoded

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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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Very interesting stuff. S&F

The man seems to be a fairly conservative rational average dude, the kind that would legitimately be concerned about how people would perceive him should he release these codes together with the rest of his incredible story. How someone of average intelligence, from that generation could put together a message like that, and then identify a mythical island location mentioned here and there throughout antiquity seems fairly remote.
This isn't the first time experiencers have been left with mental impressions that are beyond their mental powers and comprehension and in turn question their sanity. More evidence that these visiting advanced beings have a much firmer grasp of the powers of the mind than we do.
I don't think it's that uncommon for him to sit on a little bit of evidence like this code. He probably thought the story he told at the time was outlandish enough let alone releasing this code stuff that would take it to a new level of 'crack pot'.
Man, this Rendlsham business just won't go away.
The plot thickens considerably.

I wonder if they have undergone regression to see if they could fill in the blanks from what they together have forgotten.




posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Have just watched some videos about the 30 year anniversary of this event. This is a link to the section where they question about the binary code. Great new Information




Is certainly a fascinating revelation. I was unaware of the binary code aspect, will certainly be doing more research on this.
Hope have in-bedded video properly if not here is the link
www.youtube.com...
Regards
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edit on 1-1-2011 by maythetruthbeknown because: Trying to sort out video

edit on 1-1-2011 by maythetruthbeknown because: will get there in the end .....hopefully 3rd time lucky



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Okay, I'm having a hard time buying into all this.

Can someone explain to me how the guy obtained the binary code? Did it just magically come into his head as he was staring at the craft or did he transcribe it from something written on the craft?

If he just thought it up, then this is nonsense. First of all, binary code has been around for, what, 30 some years? So this guy has 9 pages of binary code written down from an alien visitation and JUST NOW decides, "Oh, you know what, I should probably go get this decoded???????"

You'd think he might have checked it out, oh I don't know, 29 years ago?



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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Decoding binary into text is simple if you have the ASCII chart, but even simpler if you just google 'binary to text' which shows tons of websites that do the conversion in a second. Jim could have done this as soon as he came across the Internet but its done in October 2010. My thoughts on that? It's encoded here

010000110110111101101110011101000111001001101111011101100110010101110010011100110110100101100001011011000010000001110011011101000111010101100110011001 10
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by ReaverTheBeliever
Okay, I'm having a hard time buying into all this.

Can someone explain to me how the guy obtained the binary code? Did it just magically come into his head as he was staring at the craft or did he transcribe it from something written on the craft?

If he just thought it up, then this is nonsense. First of all, binary code has been around for, what, 30 some years? So this guy has 9 pages of binary code written down from an alien visitation and JUST NOW decides, "Oh, you know what, I should probably go get this decoded???????"

You'd think he might have checked it out, oh I don't know, 29 years ago?


If you actuly watched the video provided it explains the information you seem to think is missing.

He didnt release the infomration untill recently because if he had done it when it actuly happend, he would have been kicked out of the military for being crazy. He waited untill the end of his career to make it public. Yes its a shame he waited but i can completly understand why.

Where did the binary code come from? When he touched the craft the series of numbers keep bombarding his thoughts, over and over again untill he wrote them down, Even then it didnt stop, he has been bombarded with memories and dreams that still haunt him.

Being an IT expert that specialises in software development i can tell you now, randomly writing down "1"'s and "0"s doesnt mean a damm thing. To be able to write them down in the exact sequence that actuly represents an ASCII character is very deificult to do from memory. Infact to be able to write an entier word is almost impossible.

The small segment of text that was produced from his code that he wrote is monumental. You would have more chance of assembaling a fully functioning F17 from a tornado passing through a junk yard then writing that from memory.

Its a statistical impossibility that someone today could have memorised that entire sequence, and even less likely that they could have simply guess it. And even less likly still that they could have done it 30 years ago when there were extreemly few people capable of decypering binary. The only Solution left is that it was there in his head by means of a pupose.

Untill you look at this properly and do your research you really cant comprehend how amazing this really is. Aliens or not, to be able to produce that code from mind is simply astronomical in scope.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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He could have decoded it himself whilst in the Air Force and come out with it as soon as he came out with the Rendlesham story. You don't need a specialist or a computer to encode or decode binary into text.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Shino
He could have decoded it himself whilst in the Air Force and come out with it as soon as he came out with the Rendlesham story. You don't need a specialist or a computer to encode or decode binary into text.


Yes, he could had he known what kind of code it was. But he didn't.

Yes, he could had he wanted to destroy his military career. But he didn't.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Smugallo
In all the details I've ever heard of the rendelsham forest incident, I have never once heard of the binary numbers. It's fascinating I admit, but I have a hard time wondering why potential ET's / Inter Terrestrials would use binary to code a message in English! My belief in the witnesses of the incident compels me to believe what I'm seeing is true, but I'm guessing it's to good to be....


Exactly! We encode English (or other languages) into ASCII a decimal format, which is then encoded into binary so that it can be stored and transmitted via computer...

It makes no sense to speak binary to a human



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Hi, I posted this in the other thread regarding this code. thought it might be a better topic of discussion in here. Just wanted to put a few thoughts I had on this "code" This is purely speculation on my part, as it couldn't be anything else simply due to the topic here in. If this UFO wasn't piloted by a biological entity, but was perhaps a remote controlled device for lack of better terms, there are many reasons a code was implemented rather than a straight forward statement or mathematical equivalent. No, I don't believe it was to give credibility to there existence, if that was the goal they'd land at the White House. If, as an extraterrestrial I sent a message to another world, but in my language, I'd obviously want it translated to the simplest form of expression. So programmed into this craft is a universal translation program with parameters to locate the local primitive language and relay the message in simplest terms to the inhabitants. If this craft came into contact with say, one of our satellites which is easily understandable, and in doing so came to the realization that a computer code was relaying the information, it could easily think this would be a readily understandable form of communication. It may not have realized it was only being converted into binary for the computers and that the end users were using alphabet (English in this case). So upon contact it merely relayed the message in the language it found being used in most of the world, let's face it the US and UK have many more satellites than the rest of the world, all using the same alphabet, thus the same binary code. The message was relayed as the craft was programmed to do, in what it thought to be the most widely understood language of the planet.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Smugallo
In all the details I've ever heard of the rendelsham forest incident, I have never once heard of the binary numbers. It's fascinating I admit, but I have a hard time wondering why potential ET's / Inter Terrestrials would use binary to code a message in English! My belief in the witnesses of the incident compels me to believe what I'm seeing is true, but I'm guessing it's to good to be....


The "too good to be true" argument is a useless exercise and should not be used to prove or disprove authenticity.

Your point thing about encoding a message from English to binary is in my estimation an important one. That was what stood out to me. Why does ET construct a message in English and convert it to binary before implanting it in this guy? Why not simply submit the message in English as is? Why English at all? I guess ET read the guy's mind and determined his language was English and then quickly constructed the message and transmitted it? Also decided to encode it but for what reason? So the guy would not know what it was about? What's the thinking behind that? Aren't messages for communication?

This sounds more like Hollywood stuff than the real deal. I think if it was real it might not be based on English at all but more of a message that does not have a language. Do we think in English? Do we need a language to think?



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Rendlesham forest is arguably the one of the best documented encounters in the annuls of ufology. Notwithstanding the pitiful official "explanation", everything about the incident reeks of authenticity.

To put this new binary information in context we need to keep in mind that although today computer knowledge is almost universal, in 1980 the number of people who understood the binary nature of computer architecture was extremely limited. For example, in 1980 the Apple II had been available for 4 years and was virtually unknown outside the "geek" community. The IBM PC was about to hit the market and to the population at large, computers were considered too large and too expensive to have any practical use outside of government applications.

The "state of the art" in computing was exemplified by the FAA's National Airspace System which could track all flights operating within the USA utilizing an array of IBM Model 360 computers distributed over the 21 Enroute Centers across the country. Each Center had 3 machines situated in a 2 story building extension and taking up hundreds of square feet of floorspace. This "high tech" system was completed in the late 70's and was programmed via jumper wires on punch boards.

At the same time, The U.S. Air Force was very technically oriented. Through extensive testing in basic training, any recruit who showed any aptitude whatsoever for math and/or science (especially electronics and IT skills) were selected for technical jobs and sent to the appropriate technical schools. THose without these abilities became cooks or Air Policemen. In fact, when I was in tech school, it was common knowledge that those who flunked out of school were sent to Air Police school. This is not to detract in any way from those men and women who have served as AP's, but rather to underscore the reality that AP's (and the enlisted people involved in Rendlesham were Air Policemen) were, for the most part, not technically inclined. With this inderstanding, it is all the more interesting that one of them should have copied into this notebook a series of 1's and 0's which would have appeared meaningless to him at the time.

Flash forward to today. This seemingly random series of characters is translated using a modern computer routine and out pops english characters which seem to make some sort of sense! This begs the questions of why communicate with a human in binary and why encode the message in the english language.

To answer the first question, other apparent attempts at communications from the visitors to humans have taken the form of telepathic images or one sort or another. These "messages" are by definition subjective in nature and open to interpretation by the receivers' brain. Even Betty Hills' famous star chart was a recollected image. If the message was intended to be unequivocal some other format is required to assure that there is no misunderstanding. Binary code, as the internal language of our computing hardware, satisfies that requirement. However, in order to get the message into a digital machine it would be necessary to transmit the message through an "interface" of some kind. In this case, that interface seems to have been a human.

Why send the message in english? Even if we ignore the fact that english was the native language of the selected human "interface", in 1980 english was the recognized international language of both commerce and technology. For example the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) recognized english as the universal language of aviation. All in all english seems like the logical choice.

That the coordinates contained within the message should coincide with the location of a mythical island just adds spice to the overall flavor of this revelation. Perhaps it's time to free up some resources from our seemingly endless series of self-destructive wars to investigate this small patch of ocean in greater detail. Lacking that, maybe one of the various treasure hunting organizations could have a look.

Perhaps this will turn out to be yet another false trail but it could also, IMHO, be one of the greatest discoveries in history. Only time will tell but it certainly deserves closer investigation. This could be HUGE!



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Like another poster said: This is a little too Hollywood to be taken seriously. A much much more rational explanation is that this guy created the message in English himself and then reverse translated it into binary. He then magically gets it translated now, and low and behold, a message from aliens!

This is a terrifying possibility, of course, because if that's the case, then it's likely the whole thing is a sham, perpetrated by these guys, which would destroy one of the greatest cases in history.

Isn't the far more interesting message the one with the pictures that that guy wrote down? Is there a thread for that? Has anyone come up with any good theories for that message?



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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i have been looking for other instances where binary code has been used for comunication
im a crop circle beleiver and maby there is binary code embeded in some of the crop circles



understanding how to decifer the message then converting it into binary gives some interesting
results

(HI)PIE + 1=O

I wonder if binary could be a base code for any "messages" we receive because it is a logical progression
of the format of maths when using advanced machines or electronics

xploder



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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But could he have made up the text and then converted it into binary code? After that he could simply release the code and claim that he got it by touching the space craft.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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reading and writing binary is easy these days with all the website translators(as shown already). everyones getting all excited about the message but why are you automatically believing his story? anyone can make a message in binary on any number of translators and then pencil them into a notebook and make any number of claims as to how you got the "message".

i guess we have to take his word how and when he "received" this message at all. the argument isnt that a human can memorize or randomly spit out intelligible sentence.

sorry: venividi just beat me too it!
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by VeniVidi
But could he have made up the text and then converted it into binary code? After that he could simply release the code and claim that he got it by touching the space craft.


I think you may be very interested in the questions and answers at the link below in the longer thread on this topic, which covered this ground:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I'm not copying that material into this thread, because I think the potential fragmentation of the discussion of these issues into this thread is unhelpful. It's bad enough trying to keep track of relevant discussions on several different forums...
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by sparrowstail
Very interesting stuff. S&F

The man seems to be a fairly conservative rational average dude, the kind that would legitimately be concerned about how people would perceive him should he release these codes together with the rest of his incredible story. How someone of average intelligence, from that generation could put together a message like that, and then identify a mythical island location mentioned here and there throughout antiquity seems fairly remote.
This isn't the first time experiencers have been left with mental impressions that are beyond their mental powers and comprehension and in turn question their sanity. More evidence that these visiting advanced beings have a much firmer grasp of the powers of the mind than we do.
I don't think it's that uncommon for him to sit on a little bit of evidence like this code. He probably thought the story he told at the time was outlandish enough let alone releasing this code stuff that would take it to a new level of 'crack pot'.
Man, this Rendlsham business just won't go away.
The plot thickens considerably.

I wonder if they have undergone regression to see if they could fill in the blanks from what they together have forgotten.


I personally have a feeling the code is legit one. Ireland has a history containing more mysteries than any nation on the planet that is a fact. Many of these legends and tales would be unknown to many of you. But for you looking for the pilots to some of these UFO-Vehicles, well you need to source the legends of the fairies. Who were the "Tuatha de dannann" described in church- manuscripts and books written in the 12th and 13th century for example.There is stories of battles with technology in many of these stories. Vallée described fairy stories in medieval times, but the legends actually go back thousands of years before the start of the Roman empire. I also believe you can find clues to who is piloting these vehicles in modern ufology. Tuatha-de dannann in legend were described very much like the Nordics seen and these legends are thousands of years old, way before ufology even existed. I have lot of information, but people who are looking for aliens from other-worlds. This-discovery does not rule that possibility out, but this evidence does suggest there was a advanced culture on earth thousands years ago before Sumeria that was destroyed by something and sunk into the ocean.
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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Ok, perhaps a little detail question, just throwing it out there;

in the following video at 2.23 he starts talking about the "event" and the binary code and uses the term "download" many times. If you listen carefully and analyze his sentences. he refers to this "downloading" as being mentioned at the time the event happened.

This brings me to question the story because I do not think the term "download" was known 30 years ago at the time the incident happened, therefore would it be impossible to use such a term to describe the moment / situation.

Now I might be totally wrong on this, anyone ideas? I'm going to try to do some research to find out if the term "download" was known/understood 30 years back then.



Rugu



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Jademonkey2k

The small segment of text that was produced from his code that he wrote is monumental. You would have more chance of assembaling a fully functioning F17 from a tornado passing through a junk yard then writing that from memory.

Its a statistical impossibility that someone today could have memorised that entire sequence, and even less likely that they could have simply guess it.


Not to take away from the rest of your post, or even to suggest that the guy was a savant, but it's certainly not an impossibility that the sequence could be memorised - many people possess the memory skills to do such a thing, and it's apparently a lot easier to remember binary than denary. The world record for memorising a binary sequence is over 4,000 digits, albeit with an unspecified number of errors: link. According to the same website, the record for recalling Pi is almost 68,000 digits: link

I'll bet you an F17 (or equivalent cash alternative) that I could memorise the 12 pages of binary

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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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I don't believe this claim , it just seems to me like an embellishment to far .
Right thats out of the way ..... to answer your question , It is possible as the terms uploading and downloading have been in use since the seventies .

The words first came into popular usage among computer users with the increased popularity of Bulletin Board Systems (BBSs), facilitated by the widespread distribution and implementation of dial-up access the in the 1970s.
en.wikipedia.org...



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