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WAR: US Reveals Iraq Nuclear Operation; Conspiracy Detected

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posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by namehere
no, what was found is the stuff used for xrays and sterilization and other uses, not nuclear weapons, no conspiracy here.


I appears the link about that article, that was posted in the ATS thread linked a little sooner, don't point to any article anymore.

Would you happen to have a link to another article that clearly says the radioactif stuff was specificly to be used for xrays and sterilization?

Because as some other people already said, this just sounds too werid, and there could be something big hided under all this.




posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 10:37 AM
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Perfect timing to join up! Welcome to the board, hope you can contribute loads! =)



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 10:41 AM
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Btw people
I'm sorry if I havent filled out sources and everything properly, I was kind of in a rush at the time, and I wanted to get this information out to ATS as soon as possible..

But here are some more articles after a quick google
Source 1
Source 2
Source 3


The truck which belonged to the coalition forces did not have permission to transport such materials from the appropriate bodies, hence it seemed like the material was being secretly smuggled into Iraq.

From source 3
Source 4

Hope that's enough for y'all



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 10:43 AM
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I cant find the similar article on the BBC for the 15th of June..
Unfortunately..
Just like to point that out



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 11:09 AM
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Here is a story I posted last week about a FinancialTimes article going into intel on the Iraq- Niger yellowcake issue. While the forged documents quieted the talk of the link between Iraq & Niger, this article reveals evidence that dates 3 years prior, maybe this could tie into the reported find of uranium from Iraq. This is very strange that it is hidden underneath the main media stream we have been fed.

Don't know if it will help you but you can check out the article and decide......

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 11:09 AM
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from what i understand, they found radioactive parts leaving the countryand tried to claim "WMDS"!!! however, they were allready dismantled and and had been tagged by the UN back in 91. somebody(apparently) told them not to hype this to much cuz it really isnt anything. this was a while back i read it. ill see if i can remember where the info can be found at



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 11:10 AM
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I gathered that they found all 1.77 tons of uranium in storage in Iraq, from which they flew in specialists to bag it all and secure it for transport, which they did secretly. the uranium was enriched, e.g. the stuff you use in a nuclear power plant, or the stuff you refine for a WMD



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 11:56 AM
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Can someone who knows enough about this sort of thing tell us if it's scientifically plausible that the nuclear materials that we refer to earlier in this article being smuggled into Iraq be the same as what was found? We need to compile a report, with a sense of urgency! This could be one of the biggest things for the decade...



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 12:27 PM
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The reason you are not hearing about actual finds of WMD's is that the US news outlets like NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC have a liberal agenda and it does not promote there objective to report positive information inregards to the WOT.

There agenda is to make sure that GWB does not win in 2004.

Just watch the evening news, all negitive, all doom and gloom.

If you need proof, just look through this site, it is full of news stories with links that are creditable and positive, and you know the major news networks get these same stories, but they decide not to report on them, why is that, it does not support there liberal Pro Gore agenda.

And the closer it gets to the elections the worse it will get.

john



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 12:32 PM
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but can you explain Foxnews? By your logic the others are liberal and will basically hide the truth. Foxnews is anything but liberal. In fact they are about as right wing as you can get. Their on air talent is so slanted to the right I am surprised most of them do not fall from their chairs (what ever happened to the days when I did not know what political party the newscaster belonged too).

So if there really was a story I am confident that Shepard Smith along with Brit Hume would be all over the air with a foxnews alert every 3 seconds telling us about it.

Not to mention this thing called ratings, no one is going to not report the WMD find, the ratings would be too big.

I think we will find these are left over pieces from the power plants and nothing more.



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by SIRR1
The reason you are not hearing about actual finds of WMD's is that the US news outlets like NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC have a liberal agenda and it does not promote there objective to report positive information inregards to the WOT.



Then why don't we hear it from the White House? Of is it when President Bush or Cheney or Rumsfield says something, the 'liberal meda' just doesn't report it?



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 12:37 PM
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Here is a related article from Tennessee........
 

Wamp: Oak Ridge plays 'key role' in removing Iraqi nuclear material

OAK RIDGE, Tenn. -- Experts from the Energy Department's nuclear weapons and research complex in Tennessee played a ''key role'' in removing radioactive material from Iraq that could be used in a dirty bomb, U.S. Rep. Zach Wamp said.

Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham announced in Washington on Tuesday that DOE and the Defense Department removed 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium and about 1,000 highly radioactive sources from a former nuclear research facility in Iraq.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


And A UN story......
US reports transferring nuclear material out of Iraq, UN atomic agency says

7 July 2004 Relaying information received from Washington, the head of the United Nations atomic watchdog agency has told the Security Council that the United States transferred nuclear material out of Iraq last month.

In a letter to the Security Council released today, the Director-General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Mohamed ElBaradei, says the US Government advised him of the planned transfer on 19 June, citing security concerns.

The US requested IAEA to keep the information about the intended transfer confidential for the same security reasons, the letter notes.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


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posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 01:28 PM
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FoxNews has an article with some very key comments in it.
I will put a couple here but read the article. Makes the whole shipment seem much less "bad" then the first article quoted here.




Wilkes said "a huge range of different isotopes" were secured in the joint Energy Department and Defense Department operation. They had been used in Iraq for a range of medical and industrial purposes, such as testing oil wells and pipelines.



Link to story
www.foxnews.com...

Seems this was a basic clean up operation. Needed since Saddam probably cared very little about proper storage/cleanup procedures.

I am glad we got this stuff before the terrorist did, since some could be used for a dirty bomb.



[edit on 7/7/2004 by nativeokie]



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 02:02 PM
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i think the reason we're not hearing more about this is because it's not the sort of radioactive material used for WMD's. like the Fox article said, it's probably mostly medical or research waste, not yet weapons grade. it's possible some of it was dispersed as a result of the looting that occured during the initial invasion, something the administration isn't too eager to have more publicized.

-koji K.


Tow

posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 02:49 PM
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i think they r keeping it secret untill everything is dertermend e.g who it came from , what it was used for and was it able to be launched in 45 mins LOL!!!



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 02:49 PM
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Did you READ the article before launching off into conjecture?


The 1,000 "sources" evacuated in the Iraqi operation included a "huge range" of radioactive items used for medical purposes and industrial purposes, a spokesman for the Energy Department's National Nuclear Security Administration told AP news agency.


MEDICAL and INDUSTRIAL. This is radioactive WASTE, the only people who are afraid of it are people who are equipped with only half the facts.

How much radioactive waste does India go through in a day? China? The US? Is it just because it's Iraqi nuclear waste that it could be packed up and used?



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 03:34 PM
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Fair enough, but that doesnt explain the 1.77 tonnes of enriched uranium they had.. I dont believe, to my knowledge, that Iraq had any nuclear power plants.. I might be fundamentally wrong there, but that's off the top of my head.



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 03:53 PM
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browha:

Fair enough, but that doesnt explain the 1.77 tonnes of enriched uranium they had.. I dont believe, to my knowledge, that Iraq had any nuclear power plants.. I might be fundamentally wrong there, but that's off the top of my head.


It's nuclear WASTE. Like the megatonnes of waste that are going to Yucca Mountain in the States.

Yes, Iraq at one time had nuclear power, but I don't know that the plants were still operational.

But the waste has a half-life of about 100,000 years, so it will hang around for a long time.

The title to this thread is misleading and simplistic. No Conspiracy Detected.



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 03:53 PM
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i'm posting the following in fuill because i got it from a subscription service. however, it would seem that the enriched uranium was from Iraq's pre-gulf war nuclear operation, was already sealed and registered with the IAEA. way to go. the reason it's not being made more public is because it took them all this time to export known, registered, and sealed material, an unknown amount of which had already been looted! so... radioactive material is confirmed as being no longer in the hands of a secular, tightly regulated police state, monitored by the IAEA, but in the hands of fundamentalist-infested looters. rest peacefully.



The Washington Post
Copyright 2004, The Washington Post Co. All Rights Reserved

Wednesday, July 7, 2004

U.S. Removed Radioactive Materials From Iraq Facility

Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer

Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham announced yesterday that almost two tons of low-enriched uranium and about 1,000 radioactive samples used for research had been removed from Iraq's Tuwaitha Nuclear Center and brought to the United States for security reasons. The airlift of the radioactive materials was completed June 23, Abraham said in a statement, "to keep potentially dangerous nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists." Less sensitive radiological materials -- used for medical, agricultural or industrial purposes -- were left in Iraq, according to a Department of Energy statement.

The International Atomic Energy Agency, which in the prewar period had kept the Tuwaitha uranium under seal, was told in advance of the U.S. removal, as were Iraqi officials.

Tuwaitha was once the center of Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons effort, but its equipment was dismantled at the direction of U.N. inspectors in the early 1990s as part of the agreement following Iraq's surrender in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. The U.N. inspectors removed highly enriched uranium that could be used for weapons and shipped it for storage in Russia. The low-enriched uranium was placed under seal in storage at Tuwaitha but under the control of the IAEA.

Before the U.S.-led coalition's invasion of Iraq, as the Bush administration alleged that Hussein had reconstituted his nuclear program, Tuwaitha was a target for U.S. intelligence.

In April 2003, just days after the statue of Hussein in Baghdad was pulled down, a U.S. Marine engineering company took a close look at Tuwaitha, which is 30 miles south of Baghdad. There they found guards had abandoned their posts and looters were roaming the giant facility. At one storage building, which later was found to hold radioactive samples used in research, the radiation levels were too high to enter safely, although the entrance door stood wide open.

A month later, the Pentagon rejected suggestions that U.N. inspectors be allowed to reenter Iraq but agreed the IAEA experts could return to secure the uranium that had been under its seal for years.


-koji K.

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posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 06:15 PM
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Browha
In fact, Iraq used to own a nuclear power plant. It was destroyed by Israeli bombs in 1981.

(interesting rumor: The pilot who bombed that plant later became Israel's 1st astronaut and died on columbia's last voyage.)

The F-16 Solution - The Washington Post (by collumnist George F. Will)

[edit on 7-7-2004 by Hoaks]




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