Dreamland: Inside Area 51. Doco reveals many secrets....

Here is a documentary i found recently, what i found most interesting is the discussion of back engineering recovered technology. There are many many revelations in this documentary concerning the activities at the facility and many other things. PRETTY FREAKY!!

The audio keeps randomly cutting out, it's really annoying. Is it like this through-out the rest of it or does it improve? I'm interesting in watching it, but may well have to try and find another upload.

reply to post by ScepticalBeliever


I'm not sure, I have a copy of this at home and found this on youtube in order to share it, if it does happen all the way through then that sucks, may need to upload a new copy or find a new one. Please let me know if you find a new one. Cheers

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I looked around, but couldn't find another copy. It does improve after the initial scenes, anyway. It's pretty easy to fill in the gaps, so not too big a loss. I was just concerned that the whole documentry may be like it, but it seems (fingers crossed) like that isn't the case!

The audio is buggered during the whole entire docu.

Alas, nothing new from within this video at all.

Though I always love going back and revisiting the Awesomeness design that is the darkstar.

reply to post by misfitofscience


That sucks, I will try and upload it myself to google or youtube, my audio is fine.

I hadn't heard much about Bob lazar until i saw this, I think the interviews with him are great.

Originally posted by sir_slide
Here is a documentary i found recently, what i found most interesting is the discussion of back engineering recovered technology. There are many many revelations in this documentary concerning the activities at the facility and many other things. PRETTY FREAKY!!
(snip)

Again, we are asked by an over-enthusiastic member to view dated videos which are not a factor in 2010, soon to be 2011. Even when they were publicly shown, these documentaires were meant to be accepted only by the gullible which is the majority of the public. Nothing here for critical thinkers.

So what do the following people have in common, all featured on the docs. I'll tell you what they have in common, they are all hearsayists. All talk, no substance. It's always been that way when such topics are broached. Nothing, nada, to take to the bank. The people would be experts on the subject of hot air balloons and they could fill quite a few!

Robert Oeschler
Robert Lazar (yea, Robert Lazar, Mr Questionable background)
Wendelle Stevens
Radar Specialist, Nellis A.F.B.
Area 51 Engineer
Bruce Maccabee
George Knapp
Stanton D. Friedman, Nuke-Lear Physicist
Bill Sweetman
Glenn Campbell

Has anyone actually debunked Bob Lazarr? I mean, if he has a questionable backround, that would make sense if he worked the places he did...

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You can always find people that will debunk Mr. Lazar, you will have to do the research yourself, you can find good points on both arguments, my personal opinion is that he did indeed work at the places he said he worked at, and I believe him, furthermore he has gotten nothing apart from misery from his stories and that should tell you a lot about his motives and credibility.

Currently he doesn`t speak about the subject.

C.

The reason conspiracy here, quite honestly is that this documentary audio cuts out EVERYTIME something INTERESTING is about to be said.


Essentially it's: "Blah blah blah, and he said the location is at **AUDIO CUT OUT**, and that's where it's at."

Shrike, I agree with you re this dated and overly dramatised plod through the unknown invented dribble. Pretty much all of it has been heard, attacked, debunked or classed as nonsense a long time ago but I do hate the term 'critical thinker'.

It screams pomposity and a great many of those claiming to be one are well off base, often coming across as followers of fashion if you will. This isn't levied at yourself but just the use of the term.

So to the OP, no one is gunning at you for posting the video, for a first view its reasonably interesting if you are willing to leave a large level of logic and trust at the door, it's like life, sounds good at the time until you learn more...

Personally, i think the government likes that people think that there are strange happenings (aliens etc) at Area 51. I think it's possible that it is a diversion from the real places they have. I mean if everyone thinks there are aliens at Area 51, they wont be looking anywhere else.

Originally posted by Mclaneinc
Shrike, I agree with you re this dated and overly dramatised plod through the unknown invented dribble. Pretty much all of it has been heard, attacked, debunked or classed as nonsense a long time ago but I do hate the term 'critical thinker'.

It screams pomposity and a great many of those claiming to be one are well off base, often coming across as followers of fashion if you will. This isn't levied at yourself but just the use of the term.

So to the OP, no one is gunning at you for posting the video, for a first view its reasonably interesting if you are willing to leave a large level of logic and trust at the door, it's like life, sounds good at the time until you learn more...

I'll just address your feelings about the term "critical thinker". I use it strictly to separate those who employ it from believers who probably have no concept of what it means.

Originally posted by The Shrike

Originally posted by sir_slide
Here is a documentary i found recently, what i found most interesting is the discussion of back engineering recovered technology. There are many many revelations in this documentary concerning the activities at the facility and many other things. PRETTY FREAKY!!
(snip)

Again, we are asked by an over-enthusiastic member to view dated videos which are not a factor in 2010, soon to be 2011. Even when they were publicly shown, these documentaires were meant to be accepted only by the gullible which is the majority of the public. Nothing here for critical thinkers.

So what do the following people have in common, all featured on the docs. I'll tell you what they have in common, they are all hearsayists. All talk, no substance. It's always been that way when such topics are broached. Nothing, nada, to take to the bank. The people would be experts on the subject of hot air balloons and they could fill quite a few!

Robert Oeschler
Robert Lazar (yea, Robert Lazar, Mr Questionable background)
Wendelle Stevens
Radar Specialist, Nellis A.F.B.
Area 51 Engineer
Bruce Maccabee
George Knapp
Stanton D. Friedman, Nuke-Lear Physicist
Bill Sweetman
Glenn Campbell

Anyone remember the user SkepticalEd?

He was this guy who posted here a lot last year. Would constantly attack others over their evidence being hearsay, then go on to use hearsay as evidence of something of his?

Anyone remember him? He suddenly vanished. Or did he?

Hi Ed

Don't try to say this isn't you

Originally posted by The Shrike

I'll just address your feelings about the term "critical thinker". I use it strictly to separate those who employ it from believers who probably have no concept of what it means.

There are some of us believers who actually DO give complex honest thought to what people post, not as many as I'd like but enough.

I know other there is someone itching to say that "How can I say I use a complex thought process yet believe in something that's never been proved".

Simple, if others can use religion then I'll use the possibility of others in this universe that 'may' have came here.

My choice certainly has a far higher possibility of being true.

Originally posted by The Shrike
So what do the following people have in common, all featured on the docs. I'll tell you what they have in common, they are all hearsayists. All talk, no substance. It's always been that way when such topics are broached. Nothing, nada, to take to the bank. The people would be experts on the subject of hot air balloons and they could fill quite a few!

Robert Oeschler
Robert Lazar (yea, Robert Lazar, Mr Questionable background)
Wendelle Stevens
Radar Specialist, Nellis A.F.B.
Area 51 Engineer
Bruce Maccabee
George Knapp
Stanton D. Friedman, Nuke-Lear Physicist
Bill Sweetman
Glenn Campbell

Given your vehemently scathing replies to many posts around this forum Shrike...your credentials please?? Apart from studying the phenomena for 30 yrs?

Compare to these people, off the top of my head..... ( i dont profess to know an awful lot about the others you mention)

Robert Oeschler.....Ex NASA scientist
Col Wendelle Stevens....60 yrs research
Bruce McCabee......Optical Physicist
Stanton Friedman....Nuclear Physicist

Everyone is absolutely entitled to an opinion, but it seems yours are becoming increasingly odd and your disgust at anyone who has an opinion other than your own is apparent. The people listed above would have better things to study than the contents of hot air balloons I am sure. Your hot air is another matter!!

The abovementioned tell it like they see/believe, with their evidence. Likewise the skeptical. It makes the World go around.

Originally posted by nightmare_david
(snip)
Anyone remember the user SkepticalEd?

He was this guy who posted here a lot last year. Would constantly attack others over their evidence being hearsay, then go on to use hearsay as evidence of something of his?

Anyone remember him? He suddenly vanished. Or did he?

Hi Ed

Don't try to say this isn't you

So what are you attempting to start, a flaming war?

Some members like to remind others, when offering criticism, that they've been here for so long, etc., under different account names. Ditto for me. James Oberg calls me Ed. I was christened with The Shrike by another long-standing member. Another member offered a fantastic illustration to go with the name. But in the end it's still me Skeptical Ed. I'm skeptical first and foremost. You post information that is acceptable and I join in with the support. You post unsubstantiated claims and I ask you for evidence. You have a problem with that?

So what was the point that you are trying to prove? That I criticize unfairly? I haven't been unfair about you. While everyone has a right to join ATS and offer their POVs, it seems that not everyone knows what they're talking and because of that shortcoming find some kind of pleasure in being nothing more than a flea.

The thread title is Dreamland: Inside Area 51. Doco reveals many secrets....

What do you have to add to the thread?

My comments were associated with the thread content. You're a riot, Alice!

Given all the reports, admissions, rumours, evidence et al of the existence of this base in Nevada in regards to alien activity, I simply find it impossible to believe that there is nothing of substance here. For some reason, these videos refuse to load for me at this present time, but I'll be sure to watch this documentary when it changes.

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Again. we are bombarded with ridicule by a member who posts about himself in the third person and has nothing but negative rhetoric. BORING.
Mr questionable background???? He has been pretty much deleted from the record, made a NON-PERSON, that in itself is suspect enough for me.