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Ken Johnston at The Smithsonian. Former NASA employee and Apollo Mission team member Dr. Ken Johnston tells us his story of NASA fakery and image manipulation during the famed Apollo missions to the Moon. He then takes us on a whirl wind tour of the Apollo exhibit at the Smithsonian Museum is Washington DC. This is a once is a one in a lifetime interview with a top whistleblower from inside NASA! Don't miss it!
Originally posted by JimOberg
Thanks, I hadn't seen these videos.
I guess the opening question has got to be, what can somebody do to check up on whether this guy really was what he claims, or is just delivering technogarble spiels to amuse an audience and himself?
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Originally posted by amari
reply to post by LiveForever8
We The People are only told and showed what NASA wants you to know and see. Do Government agencies lie to the public of what is on the Moon as far as bases, structures, mining operations and life on the moon? Of course it is obvious. ^Y^
Originally posted by JimOberg
Originally posted by amari
reply to post by LiveForever8
We The People are only told and showed what NASA wants you to know and see. Do Government agencies lie to the public of what is on the Moon as far as bases, structures, mining operations and life on the moon? Of course it is obvious. ^Y^
Amari, I know a lot of people keep chanting this mantra, and it seems to make them feel smart and strong and sexy -- but whenever evidence supporting it is examined carefully, serious factual flaws emerge, as in the case of Johnston's claim.
This is the season of faith and I share in that human cultural pattern myself, so I can't complain about anything that anyone else chooses to believe. But when you say it is based on provable fact, and it involves attacking the character of people whose testimony you want to disbelieve, I will object.
If a sincere affirmation of faith is all the evidence you offer to believe Johnston's stories, you've actually proved my point.
Now let's all put down these distractions and differences, and drink deep of the pleasure -- and hoped for presence -- of family and friends.
Originally posted by amari
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When I can see Moon photos with my own eyes it is a fact to me and may not be to you because you probably have not seen these anomalies yet and I have. So dispute all you want fact is fact. As far a Johnston I was not there he claimed to be part of the Apollo program, but I personally have seen hundreds and hundreds of Moon photos and I see what I see and Johnston claims to have seen what he saw from Moon photos. ^Y^edit on 24-12-2010 by amari because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by The_Zomar
LIFE says he was "former Manager of the Data and Photo Control Division at NASA's Lunar Receiving Laboratory"
Originally posted by Dagar
A simple Google search brings this up:
sim.jpl.nasa.gov...
It's a pdf titled 'Astrometric Reference Frame Science' and one of it's authors is a Kenneth J Johnston (USNO). I believe the last bit stands for 'United States Naval Observatory'
The pdf is on the jpl.gov site
I presume it's the same chap... and if it is he does not appear to be the charlatan that Mr Oberg is painting him to be.
Hope this helps someone... apologies if it doesn't
Originally posted by JimOberg
Here's what I found out happened to the extra set of moon pix Johnston saved:
"... [H]e eventually decided to donate the rest to his alma mater, Oklahoma City University, where the data quietly resided -- out of NASA’s oversight -- for over thirty years...”
It was trivially easy to determine that this statement, as so many others, is false.
I called Christina Wolf, OCU Archivist and Special Collections librarian (located via internet search in 2 minutes), and she was familiar with the material -- "about two cubic feet, but way before my time...”
It was never donated to the Dulaney-Browne Library's 'spacial collections', but directly to the science department in Loeffler Hall.
"But when they renovated the building in 1988, a professor took it home with him. When he died, we never got them back. The materials are presumed lost.”
She added that Ken Johnston has been in contact with her trying to locate the material, so far without success.
So -- the box sat in a professor's office for fifteen years, and was never missed when he took it home -- where it presumably ended up in the trash after his death.
Is there anything that has been claimed about Johnston's experiences that has actually checked out to be true?
edit on 25-12-2010 by JimOberg because: distraction
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the anomaly which is visible in the above pic @ bottom left..... has obviously been edited out in the below nasa version.....
Originally posted by The Shrike
Originally posted by amari
(snip)
When I can see Moon photos with my own eyes it is a fact to me and may not be to you because you probably have not seen these anomalies yet and I have. So dispute all you want fact is fact. As far a Johnston I was not there he claimed to be part of the Apollo program, but I personally have seen hundreds and hundreds of Moon photos and I see what I see and Johnston claims to have seen what he saw from Moon photos. ^Y^edit on 24-12-2010 by amari because: (no reason given)
I beg to differ with you. You make the usual claims devoid of any evidence, as seems to be the norm here. How about you put your money where your mouth is and show just one photo showing something on a NASA photo of the lunar surface that is not a natural feature. And, please, do not use those awful colorized versions that are prevalent in this forum and all over the web. And strive to offer a decent resolution photo, not those blurry, overpixelated ones that seem to be the only photos where the mentally-challenged see what they want others to see. And stay away from anything offered by John Lear 'cause they don't show anything but fantasies.
You sound like you can do it. I look forward to such a reply. Yawn!
BTW, you most definitely will receive extra Brownie points if you were able to find one of those altered photos that Ken Johnston claims he saw or even an unaltered one. Anything!
edit on 24-12-2010 by The Shrike because: Clarity.