This is a scary development. You can be certain that it will be misused to silence anyone who is making the regime's administration awkward.

Here in the UK where they took away our rights to own guns, they haven't been able to bring in legislation for detaining without trial for 90 days. A right to a trial is a basic human right in any civilised country.

Habeas Corpus.

You know guys, there's one thing I don't think I've ever seen anyone here say -- maybe because they don't understand, or maybe because they haven't thought of it. Or maybe it's because you always want to take the paranoid angle. Doom and gloom is much more interesting for you, isn't it. There was site-wide coverage on ATS during the oil spill, but once it was over not even 0.05% of you commented on it. Anyway, on to my point:

The more technology increases and reaches into everyone's home making it easier for them to connect with the world, the more these anti-constitutional laws will be enacted. You want to do away with all the corruption, do away with the technology that enables it.

A perfect example of this is wall street. People couldn't make the kind of money two decades ago that they can make now. Technology has allowed for trading instantaneously from the comfort of your own home. Likewise, groups who have an anti-American agenda can coalesce because of ease of access to high technology.

Originally posted by pjslug

Works both ways, it's easier for the government to spread disinformation on the web. Likewise a protest can be made to happen in an organic way which makes it impossible for the TPTB to react quick enough to prevent.

The PTB must be having to paddle pretty quickly to keep up with the exposure their lies are getting on the web.

Originally posted by pjslug
You know guys, there's one thing I don't think I've ever seen anyone here say -- maybe because they don't understand, or maybe because they haven't thought of it. Or maybe it's because you always want to take the paranoid angle. Doom and gloom is much more interesting for you, isn't it. There was site-wide coverage on ATS during the oil spill, but once it was over not even 0.05% of you commented on it. Anyway, on to my point:

The more technology increases and reaches into everyone's home making it easier for them to connect with the world, the more these anti-constitutional laws will be enacted. You want to do away with all the corruption, do away with the technology that enables it.

A perfect example of this is wall street. People couldn't make the kind of money two decades ago that they can make now. Technology has allowed for trading instantaneously from the comfort of your own home. Likewise, groups who have an anti-American agenda can coalesce because of ease of access to high technology.

You are correct, we at ATS are easily side-tracked, it's probably the reason why the elite can do what they do to us. The technology that we have keeps our eyes lowered to where we can't...... {:>/ ........{:>) ......looky there, a butterfly. Come here butterfly.....here butty, butty,......stand still so I can catch you and pin you to a board and prostitute you in a classroom.

Originally posted by pjslug
You know guys, there's one thing I don't think I've ever seen anyone here say -- maybe because they don't understand, or maybe because they haven't thought of it. Or maybe it's because you always want to take the paranoid angle. Doom and gloom is much more interesting for you, isn't it. There was site-wide coverage on ATS during the oil spill, but once it was over not even 0.05% of you commented on it. Anyway, on to my point:

The more technology increases and reaches into everyone's home making it easier for them to connect with the world, the more these anti-constitutional laws will be enacted. You want to do away with all the corruption, do away with the technology that enables it.

A perfect example of this is wall street. People couldn't make the kind of money two decades ago that they can make now. Technology has allowed for trading instantaneously from the comfort of your own home. Likewise, groups who have an anti-American agenda can coalesce because of ease of access to high technology.

Ted Kazinsky???

When did you get out?? Yes the doom and gloom screaming can get "addictive" I'm sure theres brain chemistry involved there somehow. But I don't think the medium completely creates the message. If the people we put in positions of trust wouldn't violate that trust we wouldn't have anything to point fingers at.

"Scandal" seems to be asmuch a human condition as "war" or "greed".Doing away with the newspaper will not do away with the scandals it reports. The interwebs affect us all and is (arguably) the most powerful development of technology in the history of man...

I know some people who might greatly benefit from "indefinite detention". Maybe if the crowd gets big enough, TPTB can call in some alumni to host some reformation classes. Maybe Martha Stewart could teach cooking, organic gardening, and origami decorating. Nice, huh?

If there is a good population in detention, perhaps more effort will be made to rehabilitate and keep the dissidents happy.

A lot of people "out there" really have no business being in a society that wants to live in peace and safety. Many are repeat offenders and nothing is going to deter them because they have no respect for themselves or others. They have been given numerous chances and they have proven themselves to be leeches on your society. It's time another "solution" is put in place for these types.

Originally posted by 46ACE
Ted Kazinsky???

When did you get out?? Yes the doom and gloom screaming can get "addictive" I'm sure theres brain chemistry involved there somehow. But I don't think the medium completely creates the message. If the people we put in positions of trust wouldn't violate that trust we wouldn't have anything to point fingers at.

"Scandal" seems to be asmuch a human condition as "war" or "greed".Doing away with the newspaper will not do away with the scandals it reports. The interwebs affect us all and is (arguably) the most powerful development of technology in the history of man...

edit on 23-12-2010 by 46ACE because: correcting tense and improving structure...

We keep voting these same jack asses into office! Americans are idiots, so take the blame where it lies first. We all have the complete power to overhaul the government and put an entirely fresh team of people in. The people are just too disorganized to pull off something like that and would rather whine and complain instead of trying to make real change.

how the f is potus allowed to bypass due process legally. now don't get me wrong i know they have been doing so illegally for years but to brazenly annouce they are going to do it legally because obama says so is a slap in the face to the constitution