What is worse for the children, Pornography or Violence?

reply to post by SaturnFX


violence. hands down. every study shows this. but i do agree that pornography has a negative effect as well. violence just saturates everything these days though.

porn can teach kids how to please one another when they get older. violence teaches its ok to be violent. I think i would prefer a world of sex than a world of violence

Originally posted by predator0187
Violence, without a doubt.

We are born into this world naked, we evolved from a common ancestor from chimps and were always naked, and the whole idea of clothing is a fairly new one. Sex is something that if we did not do we would cease to exist, so why hide it.

Sex is also very enjoyable, so why pretend like it is something that needs to be hidden? Everyone does it (if they can) and it is the most natural thing we have.

Yes, sex is a natural part of life,.
but allowing an immature mind to its viewing will be very destructive to the minds ability to process right from wrong

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

violence. hands down. every study shows this. but i do agree that pornography has a negative effect as well. violence just saturates everything these days though.

I agree with that. I am actually really curious why parents will simply flip a gasket if their little one is watching the latest dance video by some pop star wearing nothing, yet get them the latest blast the brains out of people game with no issues.

Its like...which would you rather them do when they grow up...have intercourse, or homicide...

Bah...you silly hoomans confuse me

reply to post by SaturnFX


eh. i do agree that popular music is becoming pornified and its that's not really cool either. i just think violence is the greater threat, and agree with your sex v. murder question. i just don't see why it has to be either or.

reply to post by Lil Drummerboy


Not sure if you have children or not, but it is hard as can be for them not to see sex. From coming in the room in the middle of the night or just walking in at the wrong time. Every child has seen it, the majority are so small they cannot remember.

I'm not talking about hardcore, squirting disgusting stuff, I'm talking about real sex. How could that affect a Childs mind? Watch a child, they play with themselves all the time, it's a very natural action. Trying to teach them not to do it is the hard thing.

It is just connecting the dots for kids, then they understand what those parts are for. A very natural thing.

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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy

Originally posted by predator0187
Violence, without a doubt.

We are born into this world naked, we evolved from a common ancestor from chimps and were always naked, and the whole idea of clothing is a fairly new one. Sex is something that if we did not do we would cease to exist, so why hide it.

Sex is also very enjoyable, so why pretend like it is something that needs to be hidden? Everyone does it (if they can) and it is the most natural thing we have.

Yes, sex is a natural part of life,.
but allowing an immature mind to its viewing will be very destructive to the minds ability to process right from wrong

aha, what is right or wrong though...and why?
is it right to kiss someone, or grope someone? Must there be love in order to admit attraction?

The whole thing is subjective...what isn't subjective is taking a loaded rifle and shooting someone dead to grab their car = wrong...yet a game with only a pg rating can show atrocities, and the player being the catalist for said attrocities...yet show some jiggle and suddenly it becomes horriffic to consider junior seeing that.

Violence is held in some sort of honor role in all its forms in the world, but sex and natural attraction...very bad..perverted..evil...horrible...

How can we, if we have been trained this way, even start to judge what is right and wrong.



Personally, I think its good for them to wait until their mid/late teens before any graphic exposure to either ideally because both are a distraction that rob the innocence of childhood..just a bit of my thinking on it.

I think that one has to determine what porn is to start with. It's a HUGE genre. Some would consider this porn. 70's porn? Yes that's destructive. Totally unrealistic. There is some porn that is more like a soap opera. Micheal Ninn's films. That said, I said "soap opera."

Violence is the worst but you have to look at all aspects of life when you're raising your kids. Not pigeon hole any given thing.

Originally posted by snusfanatic
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

eh. i do agree that popular music is becoming pornified and its that's not really cool either. i just think violence is the greater threat, and agree with your sex v. murder question. i just don't see why it has to be either or.

It is an attempt to actually be practical. the UK is trying to ban porn on the net to protect their children...yet they aren't very bothered by the rife violence exposed to their kids.

It made me realize that the people in general will gladly remove any and all sex in society...even making adults lose liberties..or at least convenience, however, they honor and promote violent behavior.

Personally, I just want parents to raise their own kids...but since nobody will defend porn on its merit, I think a anti-violence in media movement may cause the right kind of outrage against censorship and put things in perspective at the same time.

Joe sixpack won't gripe too much publically about anti-porn, but take away his football because its violent, and he will be in the streets demanding government stop censoring crap he enjoys just because some parents can't be parents.

reply to post by SaturnFX


About 90% of kids are being abused by their parents in the UK and America.

Most give their children freedom to watch what they like.

Add the abusive diet of junk food to the mix and it's easy to see why 90% of Parents don't give a dam about their children's future.

When folks pass their little loved one a Junk of starch and sugar coated GM turd just remember what a irresponsible parent you are.

Parents can protect children from Pornography and Violence but they don't!
instead they blame every body else.

Originally posted by intrepid
Some would consider this porn.

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HOT!

I should not be surprised at the replies I am seeing as many of you seem to have much different values than
what was the norm when I was growing up.
Point. children should NOT EVER be subject to viewing sex.
I dont care how "natural" a part of life it is.

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
Point. children should NOT EVER be subject to viewing sex.
I dont care how "natural" a part of life it is.

Why?

Porn is violence, violence against the body, now had you asked which is more detrimental, violence or sexuality it would be violence hands down. Man I could go on, but to answer your question it is the same coin either way you flip it.

This is about children so no room for changing my mind anyone.

Having been exposed to both at a very early age, I can tell you that pornography is more damaging to a developing psyche. I've never been violent, but porn at such a young age can warp your sense of sexuality. Not necessarily horribly, but for instance like the OP said, it influences the viewer to almost pathologically objectify the other sex. That said, I still think violence is much worse in general.

Originally posted by antar
This is about children so no room for changing my mind anyone.

So, are you in favor of banning all porn worldwide so that a child somewhere doesn't come across such violence...

for the children...

The powers that be are well aware of how violence leads to unnatural sexual aggression and so they allow EXTREME violence on regular TV, and that leads to a desensitization of the emotions towards self and others. Like killing two birds with one stone.

Originally posted by antar
The powers that be are well aware of how violence leads to unnatural sexual aggression and so they allow EXTREME violence on regular TV, and that leads to a desensitization of the emotions towards self and others. Like killing two birds with one stone.

Care to link up some studies suggesting this?

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
Point. children should NOT EVER be subject to viewing sex.
I dont care how "natural" a part of life it is.


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edit on 19-12-2010 by Lil Drummerboy because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by Sunspots
Having been exposed to both at a very early age, I can tell you that pornography is more damaging to a developing psyche. I've never been violent, but porn at such a young age can warp your sense of sexuality. Not necessarily horribly, but for instance like the OP said, it influences the viewer to almost pathologically objectify the other sex. That said, I still think violence is much worse in general.

edit on 19-12-2010 by Sunspots because: clarity

I never suggested that porn was harmless overall..its a very mature post pubescent subject that requires a healthy outlook on sex to begin with, and with some opposite sex friends to note substance beyond just the flesh.
But I would rather that be the biggest issue (which can be untrained the moment you have a real conversation with a woman) than violent fetishists

Again...I suggest that years and years of porn watching can be unravelled the moment you meet a woman (or man) that goes against the grain of what your programmed into watching...its perhaps the most easily dismissed negative one can have,
Violence however is difficult to dismiss as being the way to resolve conflict as history shows.

I think ultimately violence is prevalent in society because the higher ups want to make war an accceptable outcome for nations that disagree.