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Would you say Jews control the world?

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posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Bills of Exchange, aka Cheques/Checks, used as an IOU, actually began in the Roman Empire. They were known as Praescriptiones. The concept of this spread to the Parthian Empire, where we get the word Chak.

After the rise of Islam and the birth of the Caliphate, Muslim merchants took the idea and made it into the Chak/Sakk system.

The Knights Templar brought the system back to Europe and Venetian merchants soon adopted it. The modern banking system emerged from this during the Renaissance in Venice, Genoa, and Florence from wealthy Italian Patrician families like Peruzzi, Pitti, Medici, and Bardi.

Ursury orginated in the Roman Empire. Roman Banking collapsed with the fall of the Empire and the rise of Catholicism. Oddly it was rebirthed by Italian Patricians who may have had lineages that went back to the Patricians of the Roman Empire.

The first European bank to actually print banknotes was the Bank of Stockholm in Sweden.

The idea that Jews played a major role in any of this is a myth. All signs here actually point to Rome.




posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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I know "Someone" who does believe that Jews control the world...
In the Tanakh... Yahweh commands the Jews to conquer the world by means of usury, loaning money for interest...

"The Lord thy God will bless you as he has promised, and you will lend to many nations, but you will borrow from none. You will rule over many nations but none will rule over you." (Deuteronomy 15,6)

"You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. The Lord will make you the head and not the tail. If you obey the commands of the Lord that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top and never at the bottom. Do not turn aside from any of the commands I give you today, neither to the right nor to the left, following other gods and serving them." (Deuteronomy 28, 11-14.)



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 10:39 AM
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What is that supposed to mean? Some one wrote something years ago and now we determine what it means?



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 10:41 AM
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Key words: If you obey, If you follow.

It didn't work out that way. See Deuteronomy 28 and read Jewish history.


36The L-rd will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your fathers. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone. 37 You will become a thing of horror and an object of scorn and ridicule to all the nations where the L-rd will drive you.



49The L-rd will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the L-rd your G-d is giving you.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 10:46 AM
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Bills of Exchange, aka Cheques/Checks, used as an IOU, actually began in the Roman Empire. They were known as Praescriptiones. The concept of this spread to the Parthian Empire, where we get the word Chak....


Thanks for the information.

Although I was under the impression that in at least some Christian countries the collecting of interest was illegal. Of course one never knows who is standing in the shadows pulling the strings.

The information on the origin of Fractional Reserve that I have so far dug up has been conflicting. That is why I did a very rough outline.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 11:10 AM
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My mind is WIDE open, tell me what number of people you think run the world? 10, 20 100? I am asking this seriously. I've heard it mentioned before and never heard the number....


The Bilderbergers are around 130.

There are other groups like The Committee on Economic Development, The Commission on Global Governance, The trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Affairs, and WWF 1001 Club

The interesting thing is the membership of the groups are very similar.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 11:35 AM
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Ursury was illegal while the Church had absolute control. As soon as that control was lost everything changed.

Families, dynasties of Roman patricians, whose lines went back before the Church, began to assert their power and the world hasn't been the same since.
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posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 01:09 PM
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I don't think they control the world, they can barely hold on to Israel. But that alone is a feat of great magnitude, they certainly do have a massive amount of influence for such a small minority.
Jews are potentially a threat because of such concentrated focused power within the hands of so few.

After so many thousands of years of constantly being kicked out of one nation after another forced to wander and spread and all that it becomes clear that as a culture they have trouble with assimilation. I don't buy the standard scape goat theory because think about it.

A child in school is constantly being moved from class to class to get away from the previous class. After about the 3rd or 4th time I would start to look at the child and wonder what that child is doing wrong.
However, if they are the chosen ones, which could simply mean chosen to bear more responsibility, it would not surprise me to see agents of evil lurking and stalking them always.
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posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by crimvelvet
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My mind is WIDE open, tell me what number of people you think run the world? 10, 20 100? I am asking this seriously. I've heard it mentioned before and never heard the number....


The Bilderbergers are around 130.

There are other groups like The Committee on Economic Development, The Commission on Global Governance, The trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Affairs, and WWF 1001 Club

The interesting thing is the membership of the groups are very similar.


Tell me then how such a small group can not make things better???? Do they have such different views???



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 01:35 PM
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To answer your question do i think Jews control the world i would have to say no, sure there's some that are part of TPTB just like some Masons are but even if you believe any of Fritz Springmeier's book The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines only a fraction are Jewish, so no i do think so, there are some Jewish poeple that have power but most don't control the world just a few that are part of TPTB....



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 02:50 PM
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If people knew a thing about Hitler, they wouldnt be so idioticly stupid as to say `hitler knew about the zionist plan to take over the world so he tried to stop them`...

That is STUPID. The dumbest, most ignorant thing, ever said.

Here are some relavant Hitler quotes, that puts everything into perspective. And yes, it is entirely a religious thing. Except the majority of people have been trained liberal and agnostic and therefore undervalue the significance of the religious philosophical differences between Judaic thought, and pagan thought. They think this century has made the last 2500 years irrelavant, as if there wasnt any deep theological difference between them.



“The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy. - Rauschning,Hitler Speaks,p. 234





We are the joyous Hitler youth, We do not need any Christian virtue Our leader is our savior The Pope and Rabbi shall be gone We want to be pagans once again.” - Song sung by Hitler youth





“They refer to me as an uneducated barbarian. Yes, we are barbarians. We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.”





“Providence has ordained that I should be the greatest liberator of humanity. I am freeing man from the restraints of an intelligence that has taken charge, from the dirty and degrading self-mortification of a false vision called conscience and morality, and from the demands of a freedom and independence which only a very few can bear.” - Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 222





“The Ten Commandments have lost their validity. Conscience is a Jewish invention, it is a blemish like circumcision.” - Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 220





“If only one country, for whatever reason, tolerates a Jewish family in it, that family will become the germ center for fresh sedition. If one little Jewish boy survives without any Jewish education, with no synagogue and no Hebrew school, it [Judaism] is in his soul. Even if there had never been a synagogue or a Jewish school or an Old Testament, the Jewish spirit would still exist and exert its influence. It has been there from the beginning and there is no Jew, not a single one, who does not personify it.” - Robert Wistrich, Hitler's Apocalypse, p. 122; from a conversation with Croatian Foreign Minister General Kvaternik, July 21, 1941





“The internal expurgation of the Jewish spirit is not possible in any platonic way. For the Jewish spirit as the product of the Jewish person. Unless we expel the Jewish people. Unless we expel the Jewish people soon, they will have judaized our people within a very short time.” - Jackel, Hitler's Worldview, p. 52; from a speech at Nuremberg, January 13, 1923





“The law of selection justifies this incessant struggle, by allowing the survival of the fittest. Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.” - Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, trans., (Oxford, 1953), Hitler's Table-Talk, p. 51





“.. Do you now appreciate the depth of our National Socialist Movement? Can there be anything greater and more all comprehending? Those who see in National Socialism nothing more than a political movement know scarcely anything of it. It is more even than religion; it is the will to create mankind anew.” - Rauschning,Hitler Speaks





“The earth continues to go round, whether it’s the man who kills the tiger or the tiger who eats the man. The stronger asserts his will, it’s the law of nature. The world doesn’t change; its laws are eternal.” - Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, trans., (Oxford, 1953), Hitler’s Table-Talk, p. 38-39



I would like to point out that the word Liberal - is from the Latin word Liber. Liber was the Roman dionysus, and Dionysus was a `god` or concept deified by the greeks and people of asia minor. He symbolizes liberalism. His mythology explains clearly how dionysus represents the breaking down of all societal norms; of modesty and a sense of boundaries and limitations. this is why in the rites of liber, his followers would engage in behavior that symbolized the complete rapture and possesion by the god dionysus; under his spell (or insanity) they would rip apart the animal that was to be sacrificed, and very often this was followed by eating it raw.

Thats the history of liber. And isnt it funny that its the source of todays liberal (the suffix AL, in all english words comes from hebrew, which mean 'power'. Thus, liberal lit. means 'the power of liber') culture? How many liberals know that? Liberals are the greatest hypocrites. Theyre demagogues. The very idea of liberalism, means existentialism. it means moral relativism. it means "i will do whatever benefits me". Why? because the god, liber, says so. His very nature, and reality is the breaking down of boundaries; meaning moral boundaries. Social norms. not lying or stealing or exploiting for instance. No, it is precisely like the animal kingdom they worship. Theyre the lions, and the weak defenceless ignorant classes are their prey.

and of course i refer only to the educated liberals, who understand the nature of the myths and theology of the ancients.
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posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:06 PM
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You Know what? I am getting SOOOOOO sick of this arguement. Becuase those who support the belief of the 'EVIL JEW" have absolutely NOTHING of validity to back it up.

Look at those who have despised the jews the most and tried (and are still trying) to wipe them out. That should say it all.



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