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The system, with this additional planet, represents a challenge for current planet formation models as none of them can explain the in situ formation of all four planets. With its four young giant planets and known cold/warm debris belts4, the HR 8799 planetary system is a unique laboratory in which to study the formation and evolution of giant planets at wide (>10 au) separations
In astrophysics, the term accretion is used for at least two distinct processes.
The first and most common is the growth of a massive object by gravitationally attracting more matter, typically gaseous matter in an accretion disc. Accretion discs are common around smaller stars or stellar remnants in a close binary, or black holes in the centers of spiral galaxies. Some dynamics in the disc are necessary to allow orbiting gas to lose angular momentum and fall onto the central massive object. Occasionally, this can result in stellar surface fusion.
The second process is somewhat analogous to the one in atmospheric science. In the nebular theory, accretion refers to the collision and sticking of cooled microscopic dust and ice particles electrostatically, in protoplanetary discs and Gas giant protoplanet systems, eventually leading to planetesimals which gravitationally accrete more small particles and other planetesimals.
Use of the term accretion disc for the protoplanetary disc thus leads to confusion over the planetary accretion process, although in many cases it may well be that both accretion processes are happening simultaneously. T Tauri is an example of this phenomenon.
The system, with this additional planet, represents a challenge for current planet formation models as none of them can explain the in situ formation of all four planets. With its four young giant planets and known cold/warm debris belts4, the HR 8799 planetary system is a unique laboratory in which to study the formation and evolution of giant planets at wide.....
The system is currently the only known example of a wide (greater than 25 AU) system with multiple giant planets, but this presents a problem for theories of planet formation, which occurs by one of two processes
Originally posted by CanuckCoder
This happens because Science states certain things as thoeries and some accept them as facts, such as Einsteins Theory of Relativity.
Many assume he is correct, many have proven he potentially is not. As we find more and more data, potentially is fast become most likely.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Arken
I think what you'll find, eventually, is this:
Theories of planetary formation, and star system evolution, could only be formulated in years past, from what we knew of OUR Solar System. A whole lot of assumptions ha to be made, many of them stabs in the dark. We just had so little comparative data to go on.
BUT, that is the beauty of science!! It is able to adapt to new discoveries, and continually refine theories to reflect new knowledge.
By examining other versions of star system development, there is a growing data set to draw from, and learn from.
Think of it as if....your entire life was on an isolated, very small island somewhere. And it had only a limited variety and type of plant life. You know (somehow) of the existence of other islands, of all different sizes, very far away, and inaccessible to you. You know only that they exist, but no details.
You would naturally form theories on what sorts of plant life those other islands might contain...but, you would only be doing so based on your personal knowledge, and limited experience.
Really, the variety in nature is nearly infinite...just look at how many forms it can take, just on this one planet.
With these macro-astronomical concepts, they of course aren't "life"...but they are governed by physics, and physical processes, all very complex. As is life. So, from that point of view, there isn't usually a "simple" or easy to define "law" to boil it all down into.....
Originally posted by Namaste1001
Originally posted by CanuckCoder
This happens because Science states certain things as thoeries and some accept them as facts, such as Einsteins Theory of Relativity.
Many assume he is correct, many have proven he potentially is not. As we find more and more data, potentially is fast become most likely.
I agree. In some cases science is treated like a religion where theories are confused with fact. And of course science that does not fit with government agenda often does not get the funding it deserves.
I wonder, is hyper-dimensional physics taken seriously within the mainstream science community?
Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Arken
S&F
But I'm just always amazed they know so much detail about what's going on 129 lightyears away!!!
Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Arken
S&F
But I'm just always amazed they know so much detail about what's going on 129 lightyears away!!!
Completely agree.. In addition to the 129 light years, they were able to find a planet that origionated from another Galaxy (Article/thread is on this site somewhere).
Alpha / Proxima Centauri is our closest neighbor at around 4 light years, give or take. Sirius is about 8.6 light years away and no news from that direction either. Makes one wonder why they would look way out instead of close.
Originally posted by CanuckCoder
This happens because Science states certain things as thoeries and some accept them as facts, such as Einsteins Theory of Relativity.
Many assume he is correct, many have proven he potentially is not. As we find more and more data, potentially is fast become most likely.