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Originally posted by reluctantpawn
I place blame squarely on the fathers shoulders for calling the police in the first place. Now he has to deal with an imprisoned son and the hard feelings that go along with it. he should have handled the situation himself. People should realize that no matter what they might say to the contrary, the police are not there to help you.
Respectfully
Reluctantpawn
"What little I can glean about the transportation issue leaves me puzzled, but a person with common sense would not be moving illegal products from one place to another by car," said Bryan Miller, executive director of CeaseFire NJ, an organization devoted to reducing gun violence.
"If Mr. Aitken did the research he said he did, he would not have hollow-point bullets and large-capacity magazines in the vehicle," Miller said. "They are illegal, period."
According to Brian Aitken, he was threatened with incarceration if he did not answer questions and consent to the search of his vehicle. He also told me that his Miranda Rights were read to him approximately 1 1/2 hours after his search and seizure. There seems to be violations of his Second, Fourth, and Fifth Amendment Rights with his case. Taking into consideration, State and Federal laws which protect a citizens right to own and transport legally purchased firearms, I would assume it safe to say that this case appears to be politically motivated for reasons the law enforcement officials and Assistant Prosecuting Attorney, John Brennan can only answer. John Brennan is the Assistant Prosecuting Attorney who has chosen not to drop charges against Brian and to prosecute his case.
I was also informed that, due to Brian not being able to afford a lengthy court battle, his attorney informed him that the prosecutor was offering Mr. Aitken only a 5 year sentence if he pleaded guilty. Brian has no desire to plead to a crime that he didn’t commit and declined the offer. I wouldn’t plead guilty for a crime I didn’t commit either!
The state apparently says he had illegal unregistered guns and has to go to jail for 7 years. The judge apparently would not let the jury hear about an exemption that would cover him. The jury apparently knew enough about that exemption to beg to hear it. He refused, in an apparent outrageous abuse of power, basically sentencing a man to 7 years for legally possessed guns. -source
Originally posted by xEphon
1. Why did the cops check his trunk and or personal belongings?
2. Why on earth did his mother call the police? The guy was 27 years old and was obviously free to do what he wanted with his life
In the end though. The man did possess illegal items and I found this section interesting.
"What little I can glean about the transportation issue leaves me puzzled, but a person with common sense would not be moving illegal products from one place to another by car," said Bryan Miller, executive director of CeaseFire NJ, an organization devoted to reducing gun violence.
"If Mr. Aitken did the research he said he did, he would not have hollow-point bullets and large-capacity magazines in the vehicle," Miller said. "They are illegal, period."
Whether you believe the laws are just or unfair is a moot point. Until they're changed you kinda still have to abide by them.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Laws that do not protect property rights are not laws at all.
They are the will of tyrants.
It is not the responsibility of men to learn every petty law created by tyrants and to obey them.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
It is not the responsibility of men to learn every petty law created by tyrants and to obey them.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by SaturnFX
"Well, the state can do whatever they want."
Indeed.
They have more guns and are willing to use them.
On the slightly bright side, he won't actually be doing 7 years..he is a likely candidate for early parole and release...so a couple years of dealing and he will be back out.
Originally posted by Holly N.R.A.
On the slightly bright side, he won't actually be doing 7 years..he is a likely candidate for early parole and release...so a couple years of dealing and he will be back out.
Yeah, just "deal"...did you look at this man? Did you read where his father said that he was involved in an "incident" right after being put in prison?
If this guy makes it inside for any length of time...what do you think is going to happen to him?
From what is said, he is a very intelligent person...he will either break and they will find him dead by either his own hand or the hands of his fellow inmates...or he will ride it out, find the strength deep inside to make it through this ordeal...
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Don't need a gun to achieve control...
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Don't need a gun to achieve control...
I disagree.
Ultimately the power of government is derived from its use of coercive theft.
This theft requires a gun.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Disagree
Clever theft requires simple distraction
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by mnemeth1
For you maybe. For others it doesnt take much. For those who believe the whole of existence has spanned all of 50 years and the results of Dancing With the Stars keeps them from experiencing a solid nights sleep it doesnt take much at all to distract from the theft. And by the time you show them the pain theyve been accepting all their lives they hit the "but it's the law" wall. Good luck getting them past that point.
We live at the whim of these morons. By virtue of their stupidity and dependence they enslave us all to the "law."
The short bus runs the country.