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CHERSKY, Russia (AP) — The Russian scientist shuffles across the frozen lake, scuffing aside ankle-deep snow until he finds a cluster of bubbles trapped under the ice. With a cigarette lighter in one hand and a knife in the other, he lances the ice like a blister. Methane whooshes out and bursts into a thin blue flame.
Gas locked inside Siberia's frozen soil and under its lakes has been seeping out since the end of the last ice age 10,000 years ago. But in the past few decades, as the Earth has warmed, the icy ground has begun thawing more rapidly, accelerating the release of methane — a greenhouse gas 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide — at a perilous rate.
Some scientists believe the thawing of permafrost could become the epicenter of climate change. They say 1.5 trillion tons of carbon, locked inside icebound earth since the age of mammoths, is a climate time bomb waiting to explode if released into the atmosphere.
"Here, total carbon storage is like all the rain forests of our planet put together," says the scientist, Sergey Zimov — "here" being the endless sweep of snow and ice stretching toward Siberia's gray horizon, as seen from Zimov's research facility nearly 350 kilometers (220 miles) above the Arctic Circle.
Originally posted by C0bzz
Better change to clean sources of energy then.
Not hard.
They exist.
*cough*
if man made global warmists have their way the result will be millions dead because of the financial repercussions, thats a bigger danger then MMGW
Originally posted by Danbones
I wish people would just look at a graph over time
Climate was changing up and down through many Ice ages and warm periods long before man ever arrived on the scene
I can't understand how that goes ignored by the man made global warming crowd.
Unless they have invested in carbon credit trading and they don't want anyone to notice that because thier carbon trading investment would fall to zero.
get a job
but not one critical to the well being of other people.
if man made global warmists have their way the result will be millions dead because of the financial repercussions, thats a bigger danger then MMGW
duh
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Originally posted by vkturbo
reply to post by DutchBigBoy
climat change isn't a hoax the fact it is caused by man is.
2nd line
Originally posted by nocents
OK correct me if I am wrong.
The premiss of the article is that the melting ice is causing the gas to be released. Yet the article also states that the methane has been leaking for 10,000 years. If the methane has not escaped at the same rate as it is leaked their must be one huge methane bubble under the ice. And this scientist is walking around Siberia with a lighter. This could make Tangusta look like 4th of July celebration.
Originally posted by C0bzz
reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II
www.opentemp.org...
clearclimatecode.org...
edgcm.columbia.edu...
www.woodfortrees.org/
www.eecg.utoronto.ca...
or by 'raw data' are you talking about building a dedicated planet and then waiting 100 years or something silly like that?
SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.
Originally posted by vkturbo
reply to post by DutchBigBoy
climat change isn't a hoax the fact it is caused by man is.
2nd line
There is a consensus among 97 % of the scientific community, specialized in climate related subjects.
They agree that the evidence suggest the climate change is caused or at least major influenced by man.
Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
reply to post by Sinter Klaas
There is a consensus among 97 % of the scientific community, specialized in climate related subjects.
They agree that the evidence suggest the climate change is caused or at least major influenced by man.
Can we have a backing source for this statement? Thanks.
So a consensus in science is different from a political one. There is no vote. Scientists just give up arguing because the sheer weight of consistent evidence is too compelling, the tide too strong to swim against any longer.