Tea Party needs own Political Party affiliation

Tea Party needs own Political Party affiliation

I have to laugh when I read some of these threads
on the news and at ATS which claim the Tea Party
failed in this election. Well I just don't see it that way.
Just because they lost a few races here and there
doesn't mean they lost or are packing it in and going
home. Absolutely not! Their resolve has only hit new
highs.

So here's the bottom line

Of ALL Tea Party candidates nationwide who ran
and was supported by the Tea Party movement

45 TP candidates won their races just
in the House and Senate !!!

You have to consider all the obstacles
the TP has faced. They are fighting both
established parties in a 2-party political
system. And to gain 45 on their
very first try is absolutely amazing. Even
despite both of the other 2 parties claiming
all kinds of outlandish propaganda campaigns
against the TP like they are terrorists, they are
psychos, they are NUTS, they are extremists,
etc, etc ... the list goes on and on. Attacks from
both sides of the aisle including an infiltration
attempt by the GOP to take over the movement
just to put it out of it's misery. Nope, ain't gonna
happen baby. The TP is here to stay and it has
found it's own niche in the mainstream political
arena. So much so, that it needs it's own Political
Party affiliation, a status only a few parties have attained
thus far.

What makes the TP so unique is it's broad base
of supporters. Folks from all walks of life who are fed
up with politics as usual are finding a home with
like-minded individuals. They are like families with
a common bond and a common interest, to make
a better future than what is being offered by the
2-party establishment.

So, I submit my request that the Tea Party
get it's actual affiliation and status it deserves.
They deserve their own caucuses
and primaries just by the sheer numbers they represent.
I do not know for sure as there have been no reports
as yet but if you count up ALL the votes of ALL TP
candidates, I'm sure they will tally in the millions
nationwide. And that is no joking matter, thusly
making the TP no joking matter. Some numbers
for you to sink your teeth into.

SENATE - 10 TOTAL

5 WON - 50% of Tea Party candidates won
PA- Pat Toomey
KY- Rand Paul
FL- Marco Rubio
WI- Ron Johnson
UT- Mike Lee

4 LOST - 40% of Tea Party candidates lost
DE- Christine O’Donnell
NV- Sharron Angle
WV- John Raese
CO- Ken Buck

1 UNDECIDED
AK- Joe Miller

_____________________

HOUSE - 130 TOTAL

40 WON - 31% of Tea Party candidates won
AR-1 Rick Crawford
AR-2 Tim Griffin
AZ-1 Paul Gosar
AZ-5 David Schweikert
FL-2 Steve Southerland
FL-22 Allen West
FL-24 Sandra Adams
GA-9 Tom Graves
ID-1 Raul Labrador
IL-10 Robert Dold
IL-11 Adam Kinzinger
IL-14 Randy Hultgren
IL-17 Bobby Schilling
IN-3 Marlin Stutzman
IN-9 Todd Young
LA-3 Jeff Landry
MI-1 Dan Benishek
MI-3 Justin Amash
MI-7 Tim Walberg
MN-6 Michelle Bachmann
MO-4 Vicky Hartzler
NC-2 Renee Ellmers
NH-1 Frank Guinta
NV-3 Joe Heck
NY-13 Michael Grimm
NY-20 Christopher Gibson
OH-1 Steve Chabot
OH-6 Bill Johnson
OH-15 Steven Stivers
OH-16 Jim Renacci
SC-1 Tim Scott
SC-3 Jeff Duncan
SC-4 Trey Gowdy
SC-5 Mick Mulvaney
TN-4 Scott DesJarlais
TX-17 Bill Flores
VA-9 H. Morgan Griffith
WI-7 Sean Duffy
WI-8 Reid Ribble
WV-1 David McKinley

82 LOST - 63% of Tea Party candidates lost
AR-4 Beth Anne Rankin
AZ-4 Janet Contreras
CA-5 Paul A. Smith
CA-6 Jim Judd
CA-7 Rick Tubbs
CA-8 John Dennis
CA-9 Gerald Hashimoto
CA-10 Gary Clift
CA-16 Daniel Sahagun
CA-18 Michael Berryhill
CA-23 Tom Watson
CA-27 Mark Reed
CA-29 John Colbert
CA-30 Charles Wilkerson
CA-37 Star Parker
CA-43 Scott Folkens
CA-47 Van Tran
CA-51 Nick Popaditch
CT-3 Jerry Labriola
DE-1 Glen Urquhart
FL-3 Michael Yost
GA-4 Lisbeth "Liz" Carter
GA-5 Fenn Little
HI-1Charles Djou
HI-2 John Willoughby
IL-5 David Ratowitz
IL-9 Joel Pollak
IL-12 Teri Newman
IN-1 Mark Leyva
IN-2 Jackie Walorski
KY-3 Todd Lally
MA-1 Bill Gunn
MA-2 Tom Wesley
MA-3 Marty Lamb
MA-4 Sean Bielat
MA-7 Gerry Dembrowski
MA-10 Jeff Perry
MD-4 Robert Broadus
MD-5 Charles Lollar
ME-2 Jason Levesque
MI-9 Rocky Raczkowski
MI-12 Don Volaric
MI-13 John Hauler
MI-15 Rob Steele
MO-3 Ed Martin
MO-5 Jacob Turk
MS-2 Bill Marcy
NC-4 William Lawson
NC-8 Harold Johnson
NC-11 Jeff Miller
NC-13 William Randall
NJ-1 Dale Glading
NJ-6 Anna Little
NJ-8 Roland Straten
NM-1 Jonathan Barela
NM-3 Tom Mullins
NY-2 John Gomez
NY-5 James Milano
NY-17 Anthony Mele
NY-21 Theodore Danz
NY-22 George Phillips
NY-27 Leonard Roberto
NY-28 Jill Rowland
OH-9 Rich Iott
OH-10 Peter Corrigan
OH-13 Tom Ganley
OH-17 Jim Graham
OR-3 Delia Lopez
OR-4 Art Robinson
PA-4 Keith Rothfus
PA-12 Tim Burns
PA-14 Melissa Haluszczak
SC-6 Jim Pratt
TN-9 Charlotte Bergmann
TX-20 Clayton Trotter
TX-25 Donna Campbell
TX-28 Bryan Underwood
TX-30 Stephen Broden
UT-2 Morgan Philpot
VA-3 Chuck Smith
VT-1 Paul Beaudry
WA-1 James Watkins

8 UNDECIDED
AZ-7 Ruth McClung
AZ-8 Jesse Kelly
CA- 11 David Harmer
IL-8 Joe Walsh
NY-25 Ann Marie Buerkle
TX-27 Blake Farenthold
VA-11 Keith Fimian
WA-2 John Koster

firstread.msnbc.msn.com...

So you might claim they are nuts,
but there are surely millions
and millions of them out there.
It's time to move from a movement
to a party affiliation.

140 candidates and 45 of them won
that is a 32% success rate.
That is not even counting the races
of TP candidates on the local, regional
levels.

And just think 4 yrs ago
they didn't even exist.
They've come a LONG way baby

hee'sthe thing with the Tea Party: Idiots like Sarah Palin and Rand Paul hijacked the Tea Party movement. As a result the Tea Party is now another corporate sponsored entity

Originally posted by starwarsisreal
hee'sthe thing with the Tea Party: Idiots like Sarah Palin and Rand Paul hijacked the Tea Party movement. As a result the Tea Party is now another corporate sponsored entity

this is another reason why the TP
needs it's own party affiliation so this
hijacking scenario will not occur in
the future. The TP needs to focus
and it's harder to focus without
a mainstream affiliation and are
subject to vulnerabilities from
the 2-party establishment.

You forgot Tenn.8th Steven Fincher....he had Tea party support and won. The Tea party doesn't need to start a separate party. We can do just fine taking over the Republican party,a few races at a time....Just like we did in this election !!

Originally posted by daddyroo45
You forgot Tenn.8th Steven Fincher....he had Tea party support and won. The Tea party doesn't need to start a separate party. We can do just fine taking over the Republican party,a few races at a time....Just like we did in this election !!

no offense but I would have to disagree.
The TP is NOT the GOP and have
different ideals and agendas.
Plus there is a label attached
to being GOP which the TP
wants shed of.

The Tea Party has been born in this world
and it needs a name on it's birth
certificate, and Republican just
doesn't fit.

reply to post by boondock-saint


You're right of course. The point I was trying to make is it's a matter of baby steps. After the 2012 elections the Tea Party may well have enough strength to form an official party. Fincher ran as a Conservative Republican with plenty of Tea Party support. He is a Tea party Congressman elect.He just has an R beside his name.

Originally posted by daddyroo45
reply to post by boondock-saint

 

You're right of course. The point I was trying to make is it's a matter of baby steps. After the 2012 elections the Tea Party may well have enough strength to form an official party. Fincher ran as a Conservative Republican with plenty of Tea Party support. He is a Tea party Congressman elect.He just has an R beside his name.

oh gosh
I was hoping we didn't have
to wait that long. I was hoping
to get a TP candidate on the
Presidential Ballot in 2012.
And I don't mean
"Terror Sarah" !!!

My concern is that if they form a third party, they won't do as well next time as they did this time. Third parties have an extremely difficult time getting on ballots and into debates. According to wiki, there have only been 31 U.S. Senators, 111 Representatives, and 22 Governors who won while running as a third party since 1877 which honestly isn't very good compared to how many people have attempted it as a third party just in the last 10 years or so. Were they to form a third party, they'd have a much harder time just getting on the ballot let alone being in a position to win.

and if this case is resolved

www.foxnews.com...

the justice dept. is looking into Reid's illegal activities.
if this race is overturned then u can add another
TP win in the column

Originally posted by Jenna
My concern is that if they form a third party, they won't do as well next time as they did this time.

u do have a valid point there Jenna

however the status quo has to
be changed some how.

reply to post by boondock-saint


I got word from a friend in Las Vegas that Reid and the unions had bus loads of people brought in to vote. That on top of the other unseemly things that happened might make for a pretty good show.

Originally posted by boondock-saint
however the status quo has to be changed some how.

I agree. The tea parties need to be careful about how they do that though. If they become a political party before the time is right, they risk not having the support needed to continue winning elections. If they wait too long, support may start to fizzle out as people's memories fade. If they hit that sweet spot though, they could shake things up enough to change politics in this country forever. A lot of it is going to depend on how the candidates they've sent to Congress do. Hopefully they remember who got them elected and what they were elected to do, and don't fall into the partisan nonsense that dominates the political world right now.

Originally posted by daddyroo45
I got word from a friend in Las Vegas that Reid and the unions had bus loads of people brought in to vote. That on top of the other unseemly things that happened might make for a pretty good show.

I think the FEDS need to focus their
investigation on the ties between Reid
and the Unions. Follow the money!!!

Originally posted by Jenna
A lot of it is going to depend on how the candidates they've sent to Congress do. Hopefully they remember who got them elected and what they were elected to do, and don't fall into the partisan nonsense that dominates the political world right now.

I couldn't agree more Jenna
star for you

They need to remember their roots
and stay with it. If they become just
more snakes, it was a waste of time.

reply to post by daddyroo45


They are taking over the tea party. Not the other way around.

second line.

reply to post by boondock-saint


I honestly don't understand and maybe you can help me out. If the Tea Party is not the same as the GOP, then WHY do 100% of the Tea Party members, win or lose, have an "R" by their name? Why no Democrats or Libertarians? Or do I have that wrong?

I think if the Tea Party gets its own political party, it will just split the Republican vote and guarantee a Democratic win all around.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


You should read about ballot laws in each state. That's why.

There will be no third party options on the statewide ballot for governor and Senate in November, after ballot challenges forced candidates from the Libertarian and Green parties to withdraw their nominating petitions.

The state required third party candidates for statewide office to obtain more than 19,000 signatures to get on the ballot, while Republican and Democrat candidates had to collect only 2,000 signatures.
Source

Texas:
To run for Texas Governor as an Independent in 2006, Richard S. "Kinky" Friedman had to acquire 45000 signatures in a short time, all of them notarized. He accomplished that, but found it almost impossible and claims it had never been done before.

[...]

West Virginia:
This one is an elegant "catch-22." Third party and independent candidates for office (other than US president) must circulate their petition before the primary. It is a crime for any petition circulator to approach anyone without saying "If you sign my petition, you cannot vote in the primary." Furthermore, it is impossible for third party or independent candidates (not running for US president) to ever know in advance if they have enough valid signatures because if anyone who signs a candidate's petition then votes in a primary, the signature of that person is invalid. For candidates, it is impossible to know who will actually vote in the primary, and it is too late to get signatures after the primary. Also: petition circulators cannot leave their home precinct.
Source

The second source contains a more examples, and this site seems to be dedicated to ballot law related news. Basically the system is set up to prevent third parties from even being able to get on the ballot. That's part of the reason why the tea party supported candidates ran as Republicans.

Originally posted by Jenna
Basically the system is set up to prevent third parties from even being able to get on the ballot. That's part of the reason why the tea party supported candidates ran as Republicans.

Thanks, Jenna. That is just sickening! I mean, we all suspect that it's set up that way to guarantee that our "choice" is just a ruse, but to see it blatantly in the law is a real slap in the face for me... Ugh!

Anyway, I've heard that the Tea Party attracts Democrats and Republicans, among other ideologies of people. Were there ANY Democrat Tea Party candidates? Don't you think a 'Tea Party' Party would split the GOP vote?

America needs more than just a strong third party in my mind, they need a plurality of parties! The current two-party system is preventing progress in your nation.

Here in the UK, we have several parties across the spectrum, the right-wing British National Party, the center-right Conservative Party, the center-left Labour Party and the left-wing Liberal Democrat Party.

On top of these there are parties for specific issues too, Greens, Libertarians and others. The US has several times the number of people the UK does, and if we can support all of these parties, your population can too.

It is time to demand of your current political officials that more parties are allowed to run and of your media that they are given coverage!

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by boondock-saint

 

I honestly don't understand and maybe you can help me out. If the Tea Party is not the same as the GOP, then WHY do 100% of the Tea Party members, win or lose, have an "R" by their name? Why no Democrats or Libertarians? Or do I have that wrong?

I think if the Tea Party gets its own political party, it will just split the Republican vote and guarantee a Democratic win all around.

That should be "tea party endorsed." And they shouldnt become a party as we know them but rather a phenomenon of an outside evaluation group. Thats the strength here. The are a whip of sorts. The only way to stay that way is with strong local independent bodies keeping an eye on local races and issues. They really dont need to be 100% on page nation wide as no party is anyway.

Palin is another phenomenon here in that she went around the nation as ambassador for this strong but lose association doing support work. In the future several important endorsers could do this work and even well know local support personalities. It could be very effective platform for the people to really air out issues outside of party and media bull #. If the organize like the others they will become ineffectual early. Some are already trying to speed up the natural erosion process.

Also the TP gives 3rd party types like the Libertarian and Constitution Parties to air out, add to and season the mix in a sort of confederation of independents....from the other two large parties anyway. This is important. The TP could also endorse Libertarians and Constitutionalists if need be. Oh yes. This sort of thing would go toward insuring the effectivness and longevity of the TP.

Having said all this the TP does seem to have some measure of national organization that exstends down locally. Someone was making up Palins itinerary. Probably powerful "rogue" republicans.