Plan To Send A Message To TPTB

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posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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I just wanted to draw this thread to everyone's attention, in case it drops off the radar:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's about corporations taking over the water supplies, backed by banks.

edit on 3-11-2010 by berenike because: edited to get story straight




posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 05:41 PM
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i allready saw once your american USA channel. it was full of commercials every 10 minutes,and i wanted to buy a burger after so many commercials,i dont know how people can watch television anymore.
people should learn how and where to get free shows to watch and everything they need.
and im here to help them, everyone who seeks to lay of tv and get to watch someting contact me



posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 05:53 PM
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the powers that be hold the majority of the money, and well...much of our money is just electronic bits and bites....
those who would take part in such a plan wouldn't have the amount of money to do really much with....

I go with the idea of taking a week off of life...no work, no earn money
(not even vacation pay), don't shop, don't consume......ect....
if enough of us did that.....I think it would have an effect.....



posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne
 


Only one thing will effect politics on a nationwide or worldwide scale and, frankly, we are not capable of doing it. And that is to refuse to spend.

If the whole population of the world refused to spend for even a few days, a single cent... suddenly our opinions would matter... At least for a time.

So... If you've engaged in consumerism, at all, in the last month, welcome to the truth... You are the enabler and the problem!

~Heff


The way I see it, an effective revolutionary act is for the people enmass to refuse to eat meat or drink alcohol until TPTB cry "uncle".

While they are dealing with those potatoes, plan B: refuse to buy any video or video game depicting violence or cruelty from one human being to another. Then, refuse to watch any such program on T.V. (which means the end of T.V watching for the most part.)

Plan C: refuse to support pornography in any way means or form.

Plan D: As the last resort, women should refuse to reproduce any more children to become mind-controlled automatons or cannon fodder.

That, dear friends is an effective TPTB ass-kicking. Otherwise, dream on.



posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 06:36 PM
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You won´t succeed, if there is an emergency law like in Germany, by which
the government can simply close banks for a day or two, when they see
a bank run starting.

They would reopen, allowing only limited withdrawals in balance with the
financial situation.



posted on Nov, 3 2010 @ 06:42 PM
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I haven't got much left to give up


I always said the chocolate company would go bust when I gave up chocolate and sure enough, some years later it got bought out.

But I hope people will do what you suggest as best they can. I think boycotts will work.



posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 01:46 PM
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We opened an account with a small community bank yesterday,My wife and i are currently with two of the big banks both accounts will be closed in time for dec.



posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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i really dont know anything about banks, i guess your doing a great thing. i always though i should just use the most shiny bank,but i guess we all have to grow up sometimes ):



posted on Nov, 4 2010 @ 08:09 PM
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I don't think going after the whole system at once would work because we don't have all the people. TPTB don't take everything at once, because they know a slow takeover works much better and its easier to target specific things instead of everything. We need to use the same logic, and go after one corporation for a time, because thats the only thing we could reasonably expect to have an impact on to start. Lets face it, we can't just take a few days and change everything.
My idea? Publicize whats going on with Monsanto and GMO crops. The spark is already there, its time to make it a fire. It could be as simple as making labels with a label maker that say "genetically modified by Monsanto" and placing them on known food that is genetically modified in a store. At least it would make people think about it, and if enough people did it...



posted on Nov, 7 2010 @ 06:53 AM
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There are only two things that people with real power care about:

-- Power
-- Profit (money)

Period. (Read Political Ponerology by Andrew Lobaczewski). I cannot stress enough that if you want to know how TPTB, the real puppet masters think and how their psyche works you need to read this one book.

You interupt either of the two (power / profit) or even better yet both and we will have them by the cajones.

Some ideas:

1) Everyone not go to work. This is highly unlikely as humanity just isn't awake enough yet to know that united we stand and divided we fall. This would only work if a real vast majority of people refused to go to work for an extended period of time. We would always have our turn coats but IF this were to happen, and everyone refused to "work" until justice was served, it would send a clear message.

*** One of my favorite books is "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu. He states that to conquer your enemy you need to divide them from within and that is what TPTB have done with humanity, through religion, sexual preference, class, money and self-interest vs banning together for the common good.

2) Boycott enough products for a long enough period to really cut into their profits. This would entail having enough people banning together and again cutting into their "profits".

3) If enough people marched up to the Senate and House while they were in session and not on one of their long vacations, maybe that would work?


What is happening this fall is not just about parties and candidates or television attack ads or a media fantasy of "the grassroots Tea Party movement." We are witnessing an assault on democracy by multinational corporations that, freed by the Citizens United ruling, are out to get the best government money can buy. Who's buying? Billionaire businessmen with a stake in energy, finance and telecommunications policy debates—like Trevor Rees-Jones, Robert Rowling and Jerry Perenchio—are writing checks for as much as $1 million each to Karl Rove's American Crossroads project. What's more, Crossroads GPS, an allied group that's pouring tens of millions into Congressional races, is organized under tax laws that allow Rove to hide the names of donors. But we do know the targets: by early October, the group had spent $14 million on ads attacking senators Barbara Boxer in California and Patty Murray in Washington, as well as a handful of other Democrats in races that could decide which party controls the Senate.

The Crossroads campaign is part of a broader push from corporations to buy not just Congress but a guarantee that there will be fewer challenges to corporate abuses, bankster speculation and free-trade policies that allow multinational corporations to shutter American factories while exploiting the world's poorest workers.

Fronting this corporate campaigning is the US Chamber of Commerce, which, according to the Center for American Progress, collects and deposits money from US-based multinationals and groups from India and Bahrain that ends up "in the same 501(c)(6) account the Chamber is using to run an unprecedented $75 million attack campaign, mostly against Democrats." The Chamber joins Crossroads and other Republican-friendly groups in refusing to reveal its sources of funding.

Reformers are under attack from Rove's apparatchiks for demanding enactment of the DISCLOSE Act, which Democracy 21 president Fred Wertheimer says "would carry forward a forty-year-old principle of campaign finance laws that campaign contributions and expenditures should be disclosed." That's a start, but transparency is not enough. Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold, a target of the Chamber's attack ads, is right when he says the central issue is corporate power.

Source: www.thenation.com...


With the midterm elections, Americans again showed their lack of understanding that what is currently happening right here and now with our economy is due in large part, to the previous administration. It takes that long for Presidential Policies to take affect. But people simply think what is here is because of now and voted exactly the way Corporate America manipulated them to vote.

This is also a result of people being self-centered and unwilling to unite together, putting aside their own self-interests, not realizing that what affects one of us affects all of us eventually.

There is a story a monk once told me: A man had just died, he was led down a long hallway and to his right was a door, he looked in and there on the table was a feast fit for a king, all kinds of wonderous food. The people sitting around the table all had spoons and forks with super long handles, so long, they could not possibly scoop up the food on one end and put it in their mouths. Everyone was sitting around complaining and trying to feed themself - everyone was starving because they could not eat the food placed before them. The angel, explained "this is hell, come along, I want to show you something else".

They progressed down the hallway and came upon to yet another doorway. Again the angel motioned the man to look in, There was the exact same table, the exact same food, the exact same long handled silverware. However there was one difference, all the people were eating by way of using the long handled utensils to feed each other. They were laughing, joking, eating their fill and quite happy. The angel simple said, "This is heaven".

Aesop is the first one to coin the phase, "United we stand, divided we fall" and the real people pulling the strings realize, they have very shrewdly calculated our main weakness.................our self-centerness and service to self.

Until the vast majority of people stop saying me and start saying we, the majority of people are going to keep getting screwed.

In many posts I have referred to the movie, "They Live". There is suppose to be a remake of it coming out next year. The original, while sending a definate message, was a typical cheesy 80's flick.

People need to put on their sunglasses and read the script that has been written for humanity.

You want to beat them at their own game?

Then, DO NOT:

Obey
Consume (big one would cut into their profits and that would drive them crazy but would take everyone together)
Marry
Reproduce
Sleep
Do not question authority
Watch television
Conform

If the majority of people do not wake up and rebel, we are all doomed to remain slaves.

As long as we have the majority of people that are totally service to self we will not progress.

The above is just my humble opinion. Take it for whatever it is worth.
edit on 7-11-2010 by ofhumandescent because: grammar



posted on Nov, 7 2010 @ 06:56 AM
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Yes google a video I have presented here on ATS called, "A World Without Water".

Pretty soon, if the majority of people do not unite into one front and rebel, we are going to be looking at having to pay for water, clean air and even sunshine. We are already paying five to seven times principle for a small plot of earth.

I also had a thread entitiled, "Why do we have to pay to live on a planet we were born on?" and got some very interesting replies.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



As long as the majority of people comply to this insanity the asylum will continue to be run by the insane.
edit on 7-11-2010 by ofhumandescent because: grammar



posted on Nov, 7 2010 @ 06:58 AM
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A star for your post and signature..............I have signed the petition and hope everyone else does the same.



posted on Nov, 9 2010 @ 12:22 PM
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i have a reply from the yes men,as i quote:

""Yep, we get a lot of requests for Monsanto- it's definitely on the list! Keep it up though! If you want some more tips, check out challenge.theyesmen.org.""

what that means is...their looking to make pranks on new companyes as always,and it seems they may choose monsanto,as alot of people tell them.



posted on Nov, 9 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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actualy the ideas their give are AWESOME
challenge.theyesmen.org...
below you can read all the ways we can screw with bad companyes,some of them malicious,but better and with better results then just talking



posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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I really like the idea of becoming more self-sufficient. The way I see it, we are all utterly dependant on the system to live. That's the biggest issue. You can try to hit the banks all you like but at the end of the day, you need to eat, drink, and sleep. Those are the absolute essentials for staying alive (as well as breathing which isn't taxed yet but with all this climate change talk and carbon taxes...).

All of these things are mass-produced and are all centralised systems, meaning that we have no control over them. We have the illusion of control - this idea that you can just spend your money on whatever you like and that gives you power. That is wrong - at the end of the day, you have to work to have money to buy food, to buy power, water and a place to live. You either need to rent and pay someone else to live in your house or get a massive loan to buy your own house (Or get given one by a rich relative :/ ).

And all of these systems are focussed on centralised production with mass distribution. I think we need to inverse that, at least in the short term. As an example - get everyone to start growing their own food (Hydroponics?) or at least in local communities and generating their own power through renewable means. Water is a little trickier, but there are other methods, like desalination and condensation (just pull water out of the air using a modified air-conditioner). If you are generating your own renewable energy then the energy needed for these becomes a non-issue. And if we actually build things to need little maintenance and last (rather than planned obsolescence) then even better.

Basically I think we need to do away with the idea of money and competition for resources completely. IMO we can make sure that every single person on the planet has enough of the basics to survive - we have the technology and the means, its just that its not profitable. I'm not sure how this would work exactly, but one idea I like is The Venus Project and the idea of a Resource-based Economy. I just like the idea of a global community (rather than global government). We are past the need to have someone rule over us.

I think all of these problems are symptomatic of putting our power in things external to ourselves. Making pieces of paper the most important thing in our lives. Thinking we need to listen to men wearing colourful robes to get into heaven, or even having to give our power over to "holy beings" in order that we can gain salvation.

We have to take our power back.

That said, I think this has to occur on a global level. If small pockets change then it would be no problem to annihilate them. I think the example of Waco is a good one - do you really think the US military could be stopped by one county, for example? And I have no doubt that people's perceptions of what is going on could be swayed so that they believe military action is justified. Maybe if it was a few states, but then you have the start of a civil war and I also that that would be a big step back.

But what happens if it is global? The people at the top could order their guards (who are just normal people like us too) all they like, but they wouldn't be listening. And then they could have all the useless pieces of paper they like - we'll just be going over this way now...

I'm sorry I know I have only really ranted and not addressed the thread's question - mainly because I lack the answers and its something I have been thinking about a lot recently. So thanks everyone who has put forward suggestions in this thread - there are some good ones!



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Anthony1138
you are unbelieveibly stupid indeed, the "TPTB" are very much needed, without them....nothing gets done.
We will remain primitive, because we as humans need leadership in unseen ways, pushing towards a brighter future, that we have to WORK FOR.

Corruption isnt needed, but the money they gather....well lets just say that it could be used to make a massive spaceship that could take us many many places.


TPTB are not needed. People are productive without the help of some greedy bastard at the top of the proverbial pyramid. Whomever you called "unbelievably stupid" sure as hell doesn't deserve an insult from someone as hopeless and spineless as yourself. Face the reality of your ability to alter this reality!
Seriously! Wake up.
You think people wouldn't work if there weren't TPTB?
Look at unemployment benefits and how many people (totally understandably from socio-economic sense) stay on these benefits until they run dry, if ever.

And about "the money they gather" being used to make a massive spaceship?
1. I believe in ET's throught our galaxy and universe.
2. When I see a mothership, I would be infinitely surprised if those ET's jumped off the ship with paper dollars. Why? Advanced civilizations don't need money!
3. Money isn't going to build that spaceship. People with skills are, precious metals are. Electromagnets are. Paper money will not do any more than line the seats of the captain's chair (if that!)
4. If 'they' did make a giant spaceship, do you honestly believe 'they' would take US!?!? Let's get real here, they would take off and find another planet of living beings to exploit and enslave until the resource was used up. It's happened before in the history of our solar system! We are witnesses to this gross injustice.

I refuse to be enslaved.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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send them all some weapons grade anthrax, they'll never listen.

its the only sure way



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:41 AM
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This is a wonderful thread and topic, thank you lawofone for this thread! I've thought about this question many times.
First I would say that the only way we can really start this awesome movement is very simple.
Honestly, listen and lean forward, I believe this to my soul.
We must take POSITIVE ACTION. It will be an attack on the global enslavement agenda, but the best way to combat the greedy scum controlling things is to pull away the curtain so to speak.
We need to travel on roads that they cannot access. They cannot understand, because we created them and we own and operate them. We need not blow up any buildings or kill any leaders, they'll do that to themselves when the moment of truth comes.

1. MUSIC, POSITIVE VIBRATIONS
Particularly, IMO, Dark Side of the Moon. I know a lot of people will scoff and just thing drugs drugs drugs. But I must say, this album creates vibrations that are so positive, healing and inspiring. There is no dogma or religion in it, there is nothing but feelings and most of all, it directly addresses the curtain which we need to pull back.
And so, I had a though once while walking through my quiet neighborhood at night.
If everyone with a stereo would place theirs on the front porch, and crank dark side all at once in a neighborhood over a repeated number of times, I can almost guarantee there would be a tremendous change in that neighborhood. And if we can get each block to unite, then we've already won.

2.COOPERATION WITH NEIGHBOR
This one is very difficult. Especially considering that my house was attempted to be broken into for a third time again last night. It's age-old, "can't we all get along?".
Well that would be nice, but tolerance would be a great first step. We will see city blocks form the foundations of our cause, like bricks. Exactly like bricks.

3.EMBRACE LIFE!
Absolutely important is that we all do what we need to individually to embrace life and empower ourselves, however this may be. Seriously, we must all be in a good position to make excellent decisions and enable foresight. I've seen a lot of threads and valid points on ats regarding gun laws and this and that. All I can say is, if people feel like they can protect against tyranny with a firearm, then it looks like we are lucky to have guardians at the gate. However, a firefight is the last thing we need to change the system!

4.AVOID VIOLENCE AT ALL COST/POSITIVITY
It's hard to admit for myself, but the truth is, fighting, violence and war ARE THEIR GAME. We need not participate, as this is a road that leads down the same tunnel of corruption, greed and despair. As I said before, we must only operate on wavelengths that are truly our own. Happiness and inspiration are so powerful. One can be strong minded and defend while maintaining positivity. That is our greatest weapon!

It's time for lunch but I'm really glad this thread was created. We all need to be talking about how to actually act on the change. Apathy is their trick and our demise. It will soon be our past and our greatest lesson learned.



posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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Absolutely!
I don't understand the confusion here,everybody on ATS have seen the Zeitgeist films, and while you may not agree to the Venus project, it's pretty obvious what they stated at the end.
Get off the system, reduce or clear your credit & stop unnecessary items.Cash in those worthless policies & pension schemes-they will probably evaporate during the meltdown anyway.
Learn to farm, repair machinery, basic cooking & medicine etc.
Get off the power grid-there are soooo many alternatives.....
I have started doing all these things years ago-simply because i'm a stubborn old git who doesn't want to be dependent on THEIR system. We can make our own system, based on the Zeitgeist lines, it won't be easy, we will all be pushed out of our comfort zones, that's just too bad, it has to happen.
To go on as nothing is happening is mass suicide as far as i see it.
Get enough people aware & it would certainly send them a message, hell, their media geeks are telling them now that there's something wrong with the ratings, that people are simply not buying fast enough.
Fact is, it's not our money buying anything, it's all from the banks, and it's backed up by very thin air.
Turn that money into SOLID GOODS like an allotment, a solid reliable car, tools, camping & survival gear.
I think that's pretty clear, it's not a case of grab-a-gun-&-run-for-the-hills, but just investing in a more sustainable, flexible,local-economy, without all the fake debt-driven, greed-based, oil slurping society we have now.
One more thing, i've left out all political/religious arguments because they are not the problem here, i believe Fresco made that point too. Thankfully, i remain blissfully religion & politic free, this leaves me free to work on the technical aspects of a problem




posted on Mar, 9 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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As a general rule, the more shiny a bank is, the more shady dealings they have





 
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