Ban temporary service's!!!!

Americans go to the unemployment state run service to find work.
They send you to a temp agency.
Such as integrity staffing..Nesco..Manpower the list goes on.
They let you work..Temporary....But always say to you Temp to Hire.
The company you work for pays them ....Let's say 12 dollars a our to start if you got hired by them fulltime..
The temp service's gets ..the 12 dollars a hour...and you get 8 or 9 dollars a hour for your work...
it's a scam..

They by state law have to hire or fire you from a temp agency after 90 days at the same factory...
SO you guessed it they let you go before the 90 days are up...to keep you stuck...and cause you work for a temporary service you cant draw unemployment...so you get stuck getting ripped off and our government allows this to happen.

BAnn temporary service's it's nothing but a way to hurt and keep the poor person poor and make money off there hard labor.

Temporary service's have and allways will be a scam.
a quick fix...
I need a job they give me one..for less pay...and i will be indebted to them cause i will have to pay my bill's.
No chance of healthcare.
They offer healthcare...But when you make 6 to 8 dollars a hour...How are you gonna pay 80 dollars a week out of a check and still pay your bills?
No matter how you look at it...it's a scam.

If a factory ends help..Hire someone fulltime...Not hard thing to do.
But the company love's doing it this way with the temp service's.
No hire's or fire's...and they get there work done as if they hired 40 slave's to do the hard work..so there fulltime employee's can sit back and give order's.
SCAM!!!!!!
congress need's to ban Temporary service's PERIOD


Why would a person go to the unemployment office looking for full time work.
To be sent to a temporary agency by the unemployment service?
it's backward's of how a person would look for a fulltime job.
But once you get suckered into this circle..it is hard to get out cause you are dependand on there little paycheck's.

I worked for a Temp Service for a year and a half at the same factory. The first 90 days I got laid off before I could be hired. I got called back to the same company and same job on the same machine but the company had put a "hiring freeze" on when the depression started to hit. So still no perm job.
I never got a raise, no vacation time, no sick time, no incentives at all but they did constantly tell me I could do more. I worked in the back of the building where it was hotter than hell on a hot day so I would wear camo pants because they were loose, they complained about that.. it didnt look good they said.
Me and the guys I worked with back then were saying the same thing,, temp services should be outlawed. Yeah I know we live in a capitolist society (a little less everyday maybe) so I ain't gonna outright say ban em but at the same time they shouldnt be rapidly becoming the cornerstone for getting a new job.
It's just another way for big buisness to save a lil cash. Pay the temp service to do background checks, drug screens, etc ... the temp service gives you a portion of the money ,,, no one has to pay for vacation days and all that and somebody gets to take home a hefty bonus cause they saved the company this much money this quarter.
Gotta love it

It all depends on what company hires you through the temp service.

My brother got a job through the temp service working at a footlocker warehouse in the shipping area. Out of 15 temps working that same area he and 2 others got hired full time.

Temp services aren't a bad thing if you don't expect to be hired full time. No matter what the employer tells you, you are still a temp and they don't have to keep you if they don't want to. If you don't get hired then just keep filling those applications out and keep working those temp jobs until you do get hired.

My brother worked 4 jobs throught he temp agency before he got hired and now he makes 13 dollars an hour and gets 30% off shoes at footlocker,champs and finish line. 50% off 6 times a year also, needless to say that jerk off always has a nice pair of shoes on his feet.

reply to post by TheAmused


Yep this is one of the problems with the unemployment system. If you work for a temp agency for five consecutive weeks you are considered employed, and cut off from benefits. Now those that are cut off from benefits cannot go back on benefits once the work ends if their monetary contributions do not total a certain amount. I am sick of people saying that unemployed will not return to work. The problem is security for the unemployed if they do take that lesser paying job and it does not work out, they could be homeless in a month or they can stay on unemployment for a year. I can see an agreement being made, but it requires legislatures to use their noggin and look at what is really going on. It is not a black and white issue. The unemployment system works when times are good...but bad times have exposed the system and its flaws.

reply to post by Becoming


that still leaves 13 works out of 15 stuck in a circle jerk of slavery in a way.

Now add up how many are unemployed atm...
Let's just say for argument sake 1000 worker's in a temp agency.
thats what roughly 15 worker's per hundred that get a fulltime job..the rest stay temporary for same company lol
that still roughly 900 workers doing the exact same job for 4 to 8 dollars less than the guy standing next to him.

it's a spiraling hole.
if ya can see my point.

Working through a temp agency or such should have no bearing on being able to continue unemployment services from your state. When you go to work, if your wages are more than your unemployment award, notify the labor relations, unemployment office, or similar body in your state that you want to suspend your claim, then notify them you wish to resume your claim when you are no longer working or your wages drop below the amount your claim would be.
Works in California and probably elsewhere.

reply to post by TheAmused


I couldn't agree more! S&F for you. Finding employment for the unemployed should be the job of the unemployment office but they have somehow shifted that responsibility over to "Temporary Services" and turned it into a "for profit" industry. An industry that closely resembles the "Payday Loan" industry, in that once you've entered their "circle of trust" it's hard to escape. Yes, they should be outlawed.

In reality, no employer should earn their profits by skimming off of the employee earnings but rather profits should be created by the added value of the end product. There's an old saying that goes something like this; "The whole is worth more than the sum of it's parts" and this is where the profit should come from. I think that the real problem is that we don't produce anything anymore, due to outsourcing, and everyone wants to get rich producing nothing.

I was done this way for a year till i couldn't work anymore due to bad health.

I worked for a factory here in kentucky.
Threw nesco resource's.
Was told it's a temp to hire job if they like how you work they will hire you ect..
I worked 90 day's...never missed one day..they said we ran out of work.
a week later Nesco call's...Do you wan to go back out to the factory where you was at again?
I am sorta forced at this point to go..im broke..
I work 90 more day's....never missed a day again....Sorry they said we ran out of work again..
Back home i went.
No unemployment nothing....
Lo and behold a week later..Here nesco calls again....same deal...same factory...
I have to go no fulltime job's around cause all the factory's do this exact same thing....

I can work for a factory for over a year 90 days at a time..told there out of work for a week..then go right back for another 90 day's...But they can't hire a fulltime person for the job?
That's cause it's all a scam..and our government is allowing them to do this at a alarming rate.

Yet no member of the government has even touched on this subject.
Why are people staying unemployed?
Maybe cause if they go work for a temp service like the unemployment service want's them to.
They will make less money and get stuck in a a dead end job.
that they will never be hired on fulltime...unless your one of the 5 out of every 50 they do hire.

Either way untill they fix these scam's.

I am surprised not more people posted on this subject.
Apparently not many have dealt with temp service's.

Originally posted by TheAmused
reply to post by Becoming

 

that still leaves 13 works out of 15 stuck in a circle jerk of slavery in a way.

Now add up how many are unemployed atm...
Let's just say for argument sake 1000 worker's in a temp agency.
thats what roughly 15 worker's per hundred that get a fulltime job..the rest stay temporary for same company lol
that still roughly 900 workers doing the exact same job for 4 to 8 dollars less than the guy standing next to him.

it's a spiraling hole.
if ya can see my point.

So what if that leaves 13 looking for another temp job?

Temp is short for temporary. In other words in isn't meant to last. Now if you find a place that will hire you then thats a bonus for you. But if someone gets their hopes up that their temporary job will become a full time job and it doesn't then that is on them.

If you don't like it then you don't have to work for them, its that easy. Seems to me you are just bitter because you was one of those who thought his temp job would be full time and it didn't work out that way.

Also you want to complain about the money?

Yes a temp service takes around 1-4 dollars an hour out of your check. So what, they got you the job in the first place and because of them you are making some dough. They are a buisness and need to make money also so that they can continue to find people work. Its not like they are raking in the money by the millions.

Have fun being bitter.

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Yeah that one job i worked at i got from the unemployment office.
told me to go to nesco lol
Well the job required a drug test steel toe shoe's and leather glove's....and a background check.
I had the glove's and steel toe shoe's...but the drug test and background check i had to pay for out of my first check.
Like i was rich and could afford to pay for it.
I bet money the company pays them for the test's..and then they charge us.
I bet money they do.
Yet another scam to keep us indebted to them.

Originally posted by Becoming

Originally posted by TheAmused
reply to post by Becoming

 

that still leaves 13 works out of 15 stuck in a circle jerk of slavery in a way.

Now add up how many are unemployed atm...
Let's just say for argument sake 1000 worker's in a temp agency.
thats what roughly 15 worker's per hundred that get a fulltime job..the rest stay temporary for same company lol
that still roughly 900 workers doing the exact same job for 4 to 8 dollars less than the guy standing next to him.

it's a spiraling hole.
if ya can see my point.

So what if that leaves 13 looking for another temp job?

Temp is short for temporary. In other words in isn't meant to last. Now if you find a place that will hire you then thats a bonus for you. But if someone gets their hopes up that their temporary job will become a full time job and it doesn't then that is on them.

If you don't like it then you don't have to work for them, its that easy. Seems to me you are just bitter because you was one of those who thought his temp job would be full time and it didn't work out that way.

Also you want to complain about the money?

Yes a temp service takes around 1-4 dollars an hour out of your check. So what, they got you the job in the first place and because of them you are making some dough. They are a buisness and need to make money also so that they can continue to find people work. Its not like they are raking in the money by the millions.

Have fun being bitter.

LMFAO dude you are flipmental lol

I worked for a year at same factory....before I quit!!
every 90 days they lay you off for a week..then bring you back..
so they are not forced to hire anyone to mess up there profit margins.

2nd they didn't find me a job...
I went to the unemployment office....a GOVERNMENT RUN PLACE.
looking for full time work as they allways list.
and it happen to be a temp service.
with the pretty caption TEMP TO HIRE...
they build up hope to get you hooked.
So to steal people's 4 dollars a hour for what?
Doing exactly what i did to start with...i went looking for a job...But guess what?The temp service's are all contracted with every factory...it's the only way to get your foot in the door anymore unless a family member works there.

Ok these temp service's here in my small town we have 1 of them...maybe 30k people in the town.
Let's say 5k work for them..which is possibly the truth.
5000 people loose 4 dollars every hour they work.
5000x4= 20 000 for 1 hour work.
they have maybe what ten employee's int here office's?
and you dont see how that is a scam?

Same thing here. The worst part is that they're spinning it as "economic growth."

BMW has hired 500 workers a total of 5 or 6 times in the past year. The news media covers it each time showing long lines all day long outside the building where they interview. They are such a good employer in my area to be hiring sooooo many people! They just fail to mention that it's the SAME 500 jobs, all through their temp agency, in a vicious cycle. The corps come out ahead since they don't have to bother with actual employment tax/insurance/liability. It's a sidestep of all the laws that protect workers. It's such a headache to actually hire and then fire someone. With a temp agency all they have to do is make one phone call. As long as there are people to cycle through, they never have to give out raises, vacation time, sick time, ect. The big ones save millions a year doing this practice. Even the ones who don't go through temp agencies use basically the same practices. The sad part is that they will pay you above standard wages to lure you in, you adjust your lifestyle to your wages, then boom - they lay everyone off and hire in new people they can keep for 90 days or so and repeat the cycle all over again. Workers have no protection anymore. We're just commodities to be used.

The problem as stated a few lines up saying it's strictly a temporary job is the fact that most companies now a days ONLY use temp agencies to hire from. It's the only way you get hired. They are not using it in a temporary function, they're using it as a loophole more often than not. Also, it's not the employees money the staff agency gets, it's pretty much just the company you're working for paying workman's comp fees to the staffing agency instead of to the policy.

reply to post by TheAmused


Temp in temp job means temporary.

Hopefully when you quit you had another job to go to. Other wise you just quit a job for no reason other then the fact that you didn't understand what temp job meant.

People always blame others for something when they should be blaming themselves.

Originally posted by Becoming
reply to post by TheAmused

 

Temp in temp job means temporary.

Hopefully when you quit you had another job to go to. Other wise you just quit a job for no reason other then the fact that you didn't understand what temp job meant.

People always blame others for something when they should be blaming themselves.

I will reply to you even thought i feel as if i am dealing with a troller.

When 95% of all factory's use and ABUSE these temporary service's....
It leave's the lower class that HAVE to work...no option but to take the Temp to hire scam job's.

Because our government run agency's...List temporary services as a viable job.
When it is far from the truth.
If a factory can work 500 temporary people for a year and not hire them...just keep shuffling them to keep it legal.
You good sir are diluted and apparently have never HAD to work for a living.

They do it simply cause it saves themselves money.
But it keeps the poor Poorer and the rich richer.

reply to post by TheAmused


I been working since I was old enought to push a lawn mower.

If I'm diluted then I suppose that would make you a whiner. You had a job that payed decently and you quit because even though it was a steady pay check you, like most of todays kids, felt like you should be getting more.

You can throw out all types of percentages if you want, high or low, doesn't matter to me. When I hear stories like yours I feel no sympathy what so ever.

Heres a little excerpt from a Metallica song, I think you should stick it in your signature box, it fits you to a tee.

I wish I may
I wish I might
Have this wish I wish tonight
I want that star
I want it now
I want it all and I don't care how

Excellent thread, my fellow Kentuckian.

I agree with the point you raise, these temporary agencies are being used by factories to cheat the worker out of bennies and such, and all us workers want is a JOB not an every three months you get laid off only to go back to the same job.

There is nothing to lose, Amused, by typing out your story, dates and addresses of factory, supervisors, temp agencies etc, and send it to the Governor all our reps in Frankfort, and of course, to the local better business bureau, news channels, and the state agencies that govern businesses.

Like I said, what could it hurt?

Write a letter to your editor, but as much as I encourage you to be vocal, it remains Kentucky the state of slow change and fat old out of touch men who run our state for their own pockets. I guess I should include and women, Anne Northup's another one who is out of touch with anything but her own wallet, at least she was while she represented us.

I understand exactly what you are saying, I am sure some of the money is kicked back to unemployment, it is disgusting. It keeps a ready workforce of enslaved poor folks who have no choice but to slave away for corporations who in turn are laughing in your face while because of you their factory keeps churning out.

It is a sick system.

Originally posted by Becoming
reply to post by TheAmused

 

I been working since I was old enought to push a lawn mower.

If I'm diluted then I suppose that would make you a whiner. You had a job that payed decently and you quit because even though it was a steady pay check you, like most of todays kids, felt like you should be getting more.

You can throw out all types of percentages if you want, high or low, doesn't matter to me. When I hear stories like yours I feel no sympathy what so ever.

Heres a little excerpt from a Metallica song, I think you should stick it in your signature box, it fits you to a tee.

I wish I may
I wish I might
Have this wish I wish tonight
I want that star
I want it now
I want it all and I don't care how

Yes your diluted.
You speak and don't care about truth or fact's.
Reminds me of them monkeys.
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It's funny how some people feel bad for Mexican's working illegal here in the united state's for low pay and no benefit's.
But when Normal lower class American's can not get a full time job due to company's and our government in bed with temporary service's.
all to get cheaper labor ....
Either way mate your diluted.
Btw mowing a yard isnt work it's called a chore..If someone pays ya for it Gratz... lol

If trying to fix a wrong is whining so be it mate.

A temporary service that promises you TEMP TO HIRE....and keeps you there for a year with a week off every 90 days to make sure you stay indentured to them...is a steady paycheck...
You good sir have been living to high on the hog and need to step into realty.

average temporary service pay in my area? wanna guess?
7 to 8 dollars a hour.
Pay ya bills with that mate..
gallon of milk alone is almost 4 dollars ..and i got 3 kids lol
So explain to me how it's alright they cornhole the moneyhole on a daily basis and it's all fine and dandy in lollipop world where you live?

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Thanks i am glad you get what i am trying to say.
You write more proper than i do..
therefore trolls seems to flame me a lot lol
as you can see.

But yeah i wouldn't doubt the unemployment agency is getting a kickback from all these temp services ect..
People come looking for a job they send them to them..Win...Win for both team's.
And we stay poorer than ever in a economy that it getting worse..and harder to stay afloat.

The government has to know there hurting lower class Americans.
But Lower class is never mentioned EVER in politics..its middle or higher class.
So we don't matter to them.
Slaves to the machine so to speak.

I guess it's worth a try to send some crap to Mitch McConnell or someone.
to see what they think .

But like the guy i have trolling me.
Unless you get stuck in the Temporary TEMP TO HIRE scam that is going on atm..You have no idea what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck.
watching people take 4 dollars a hour from you for a year's at a time
Company's getting richer as you get poorer.
Like i said if calling out a severe injustice on lower class americans to make them into slave labor is whining...so be it i will be a whiner that know's i am right.

reply to post by TheAmused


You got a family and you quit a steady paycheck?

You did have another job lined up before you threw a hissy fit and stormed off like a teenager right?

By the way 20 lawns a week during the spring,summer and fall seasons is work "mate". I did that until the age of 16 because my parents wouldn't give me a ride to work. They felt if they helped me then I wouldn't be able to do it on my own . So I bought a brand new chevy with my savings from work (no allowance since I was 9, when I started workeing) and got 2 part time jobs, cant work full time at that age.

Temp services don't offer temp to hire. Only the place you are temping at does that. Temp places don't like you to be hired full time because they lose out on money. Thats why they have a 90 day limit. That way if the place wants to hire you they have to wait 90 days. That way the temp place can make money. Seems to me your are throwing a tantrum over the way the factory or wherever hired you on treats temps.

Maybe you should be upset at those people instead of the temp agency. After all the factory is the one jerking you around.

Originally posted by Becoming
reply to post by TheAmused

 

I been working since I was old enought to push a lawn mower.

If I'm diluted then I suppose that would make you a whiner. You had a job that payed decently and you quit because even though it was a steady pay check you, like most of todays kids, felt like you should be getting more.

You can throw out all types of percentages if you want, high or low, doesn't matter to me. When I hear stories like yours I feel no sympathy what so ever.

Heres a little excerpt from a Metallica song, I think you should stick it in your signature box, it fits you to a tee.

I wish I may
I wish I might
Have this wish I wish tonight
I want that star
I want it now
I want it all and I don't care how

After reading the post between yourself and TheAmused, I believe that your little Metallica jingle would be a more appropriate fit in you own signature box. It's more than evident to all but the brain dead spider monkeys that it's the wealthy who, "want it all, want it now and don't care how."