Originally posted by 8311-XHT
reply to post by sy.gunson
Study the work of T.Twonsend Brown and Viktor Schauberger....
This is a thread about Die Gloke... not about ALLEGED but unproven flying disc craft.
All the work is there and documented. They even completely confirm each others work. Read about the B-2 bomber.. the reports they make match the
description of a craft Brown proposed in the 50s. Which is probably why the B-2 is public now. It's antigrav tech is probably old hat in the black
world programs all around the world.
In fact flying wings and stealth technology were Nazi inventions. Apart from some dubious claims, drawings and alleged notes you have nothing to back
Also, Podkletnov who claimed to develop antigrav said his father had papers from Schauberger the Russians acquired at the end of WWII.
The let Podkletnov prove himself, meantime there is noting to link your disc craft or Podkletnov to die Glocke.
On the other hand I can tell you that Dr Rolf Wideroe was interviewed and cited in a detailed biography about his development work on the super
klystron. Dallenbach and Wideroe were granted patents for it and Professor von Ardenne showed Soviet physicists Georgii Fleryov and Igor Kurchetov to
the Wenceslas mine where he installed the Nazi Bell. The chairman of Seimens referred to it as a particle accelerator for the Nazi atomic bomb
Plus, I know someone who I trust completely that saw one up close and personal in the late 60s. And it was the same craft Lazar described as did
Billy Meier. His hoaxed models looked exactly like the craft my dad saw. Lazar and Meier were both disinfo agents. You take a real government craft
and tie it up with all this phony sounding alien disinfo and legitimate witnesses don't have a leg to stand on.
I suggest you take stronger medication so we can all get some sleep.
Also, your theory doesn't account for why so many Nazi's we left alone after the war nor why the US and Russia were so interested in their
You assume every nazi scientist knew or understood about Die Glocke which is not the case. Nazi nuclear scientists were compartmentalised and besides
Die Glocke began as a top secret project of German Army Ordnance (HWA) and was later taken over by the even more secretive SS. Not every Nazi
scientist was involved with die Glocke and in fact SS Lt General Sporrenberg executed 62 Allied POW technicians who worked on die Glocke which was one
of the charges which had him hung by the Poles after WW2.
Many scientists were left alone as you put it because they were of no use, had nothing to offer or were unco-operative.
The Nazis had to have some legitimate technology as a bargaining chip.. your claim of the Bell being the chip doesn't make sense because it was no
threat... how can you use something they already have as a bargaining chip? This would have also made ex Nazis even more dangerous to let out on the
loose as well. But only if it worked.. if they couldn't make a bomb at the end of the war then it obviously didn't work...
What do you call nuclear weapons if not a bargaining chip?
The Americans were desperate not to let nuclear technology fall into Soviet hands or have you never heard of Operation LUSTY or the ALSOS mission?
The Soviets had no enrichment technology in 1945. Die Glocke was far more advanced as a method for obtaining fissile bomb material than the Oak Ridge
gaseous diffusion enrichment plant. Letting that fall into Soviet hands in 1945 would have been a disaster for USA.
And in fact Die Glocke was smuggled to Argentina in May 1945 according to an Argentine Government report declassified in 1993. Dr Ronald Richter
re-errected it at Lake Nahuel Huapei for General Peron's nuclear project between 1947 and 1951. It was forced to close under massive pressure and
intervention by US and UK governments.
The US Government conducted experiments with Die Glocke after the war in Project Matterhorn
Die Glocke has nothing to do with anti gravity and you cannot disprove the evidence I have cited much less cite your own.
If anti gravity exists, then demonstrate it
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