The ATS John Titor Project
Archiving the history of comments and statements
made by "time traveler", John Titor.
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The SkepticOverlord's Introduction:
At some time in early November of 2000, someone showed up in a few Internet discussion boards calling themselves Timetravel_0. Over time, they then
laid claim to the real name, John Titor, a time traveler from the year 2036. From there, the name John Titor will forever be embedded in the folklore
of both alternative-topic boards like ATS, and the Internet as a whole.
As many will recall, one of the first things Titor did was post pictures of his time machine and his operations manual. As the days, weeks, and months
went by, people began questioning Titor about his presence "in our timeline", the seeming impossibility of the physics of time travel and his
thoughts about the issues of our time. He also posted on other Internet discussion boards including the old Art Bell site. In his posts John Titor
often entertained, enraged, frightened and belittled those who engaged him in mostly one-sided conversation.
On March 24, 2001, John Titor announced he would be leaving our time and returning to 2036. After that, he was never heard from again. Speculation and
investigation about who John Titor was and why he was online (curiously focusing his efforts on conspiracy community discussion boards) continues to
Although many find it easy to dismiss all this as either science fiction or an elaborate extended hoax, there are those who still read his information
and agree that there is something very troubling about John Titor and what he had to say. I was present during many of his postings and at the time,
didn't pay much attention, immediately dismissing it as just another Internet hoax. However, as time goes by, many point to current-day details that
seem to corroborate Titor's stories, and even others feel his exact predictions have come to pass. Others have even compiled his contributions into
the book, John Titor A Time Traveler's Tale
AboveTopSecret.com is presenting the contributions and posting of John Titor as a result of the hard work of several members who participated in our
research project focused on gathering all the data before it was lost from free online access. We believe this is the most complete and accurate
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02 November 2000 01:00 (about time travel) 1
I saw the posting requsting the basic systems for a gravity distortion system that will allow time travel. Here they are:
02 November 2000 01:16 (about time travel) 2
- Magnetic housing units for dual microsignularities.
- Electron injection manifold to alter mass and gravity of microsingularities.
- Cooling and x-ray venting system
- Gravity sensors (VGL system)
- Main clocks (4 cesium units)
- Main computer units (3)
Grandfather paradox Suppose you could go back in time, lets say several decades and found your grandfather when he was two years old. In his house you
could grab a knife and stab him to death. He doesn't get the chance to have children with your grandmother. Therefore either your mother or father
doesn't get born. Your parents can't give birth to you because one of them don't exist. You could never have been born and don't even exist. But
could your grandfather have been killed by someone who doesn't exist? He must have lived through his childhood. This would allow you to exist if this
is the case. Seemingly you can go back in time to commit the murder if you are born but then you would never have been born. And so on and so on. This
situation is not consistent with itself. It doesn't make sense and can't possibly happen.
2, A parallel universe might be created when you seem to change the past. Imagine if time itself was just like a tree. The different branches show
different ways events could have happened. Every time we decide to do or not to do something time splits. Even if we are not aware we decided
something it have affects. Quantum physics reveals a many worlds theory like this. Conclusion Since this parallel universe is not really your past
(despite it's first appearance) anything you do there does not affect you. You can prevent a version of yourself from being born because you are not
really related to anyone there. They just look very like your family and friends. You are not home! You may be somewhere that looks like the place you
live but a different universe in quantum physics is a completely different reality.))
By the way, #2 is the correct answer and the basics for time travel start at CERN in about a year and end in 2034 with the first "time machine"
built by GE. Too bad we can't post pictures or I'de show it to you.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 3
Questions for timetravel_0 with permission to post.
by the way can you tell me what it feels like to time travel? when you are in the process of doing it what does
it feel like and what do you see and hear. you made mention that you had to get use to the fields. Do you see a bright flash of light?
Interesting first question. The unit has a ramp up time after the destination coordinates are fed into the
computers. An audible alarm and a small light start a short countdown at which point you should be secured in a seat. The gravity field generated by
the unit overtakes you very quickly. You feel a tug toward the unit similar to rising quickly in an elevator and it continues to rise based on the
power setting the unit is working under. At 100% power, the constant pull of gravity can be as high as 2 Gs or more depending on how close you are to
the unit. There are no serious side effects but I try to avoid eating before a flight. No bright flash of light is seen. Outside, the vehicle appears
to accelerate as the light is bent around it. We have to wear sunglasses or close our eyes as this happens due to a short burst of ultraviolet
radiation. Personally I think it looks like your driving under a rainbow. After that, it appears to fade to black and remains totally black until the
unit is turned off. We are advised to keep the windows closed as a great deal of heat builds up outside the car. The gravity field also traps a small
air pocket around the car that acts as your only O2 supply unless you bring compressed air with you. This pocket will only last for a short period and
a carbon sensor tells us when it's too dangerous. The C204 unit is accurate from 50 to 60 years a jump and travels at about 10 years an hour at 100%
power. You do hear a slight hum as the unit operates and when the power changes or the unit turns off. There is a great deal of electrical crackling
noise from static electricity.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about the future) 4
1. what are some of your memories of 2036?
I remember 2036 very clearly. It is difficult to describe 2036 in detail without spending a great deal of
time explaining why things are so different. In 2036, I live in central Florida with my family and I'm currently stationed at an Army base in Tampa .
A world war in 2015 killed nearly three billion people. The people that survived grew closer together. Life is centered around the family and then the
community. I can not imagine living even a few hundred miles away from my parents. There is no large industrial complex creating masses of useless
food and recreational items. Food and livestock is grown and sold locally. People spend much more time reading and talking together face to face.
Religion is taken seriously and everyone can multiple and divide in the heads.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 5
3.what would happen if you would meet yourself on another world line?
It has always surprised me why that concept is so hard for people to imagine and accept. Nothing would
happen. The universe would not end and there are no paradox problems that threaten existence. Temporal space-time is made up of every possible quantum
state. The Everett Wheeler model is correct. I have met and/or seen myself twice on different world lines. The first was a training mission and the
second is now. I was born in 1998 so the other "me" is 2 on this world line. There is a saying where I come from....Every possible thing that can
happen or will happen has already happened somewhere.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 6
4.How is this world line different from your own?
For starters....the fact that I'm here makes it different. I've also noticed little things like news
events that happen at different times, football games won by other teams...things like that. I would guess the temporal divergence between this world
line and my original is about 1 or 2 percent. Of course, the longer I am here, the larger that divergence becomes from my point of view.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 7
6.Are you having normal dreams right now? any out of body experiences? drawing you to different times? Do you
dream you wake up in other places and other times?
No strange dreams or other experiences. Everything is pretty much the way I expected it.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 8
7.are you able to control where you go or is it random?
Yes, it can be controlled. However, the distortion unit has operational limits. Imagine your path through
time is through a cone. The farther away from the center of the cone, the more differences you will see in the world line. The C204 begins to "break
away" at about 60 years. This means the level of confidence drops rapidly after 60 years of travel and the world line divergence increases. In other
words, if I wanted to go back 2000 years and meet Christ, there is a better than average chance I would end up on a world line where he was never
born. The computer units and gravity sensors "record" your trip and you are quite easily able to return to your point of origin. I am aware that
research is being done on faster units with more accurate clocks. I imagine that they will be able to go back farther with a higher degree of
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 9
8. are you feeling drawn back to your own time or are you stable in this world?
I'm not sure what you mean by stable. If you mean mentally...there are many things that bother me here
but being with my parents right now is important to me. Physically, the only thing really wrong is the number of colds I get.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 10
9.Are you able to go back to your own world line?
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 11
10.how are you protecting yourself from radiation? it alters DNA if you dont.
I'm not sure what radiation you mean. If you mean from the unit, you can see it vents X-rays and Gamma
radiation out of the rear. As long as you stay away from that, you should be okay. I keep a radiation detector with me to check my environment and
make sure the unit isn't "leaking".
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 12
11.How long would you say that ultraviolet radiation lasts? about 10 seconds? and when you are in that light can
you see anything around you or does the light kind of "fill up" everything and that is all you can see at the time?
The light bending only lasts a second. Its like driving under a tunnel and being in total black.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 13
12.Do your people know where you are right now? Can you communicate with them? do you have a biological implant?
No. They do not know where I am and I can not communicate with them. Interesting idea though. From their
point of view, I will return almost exactly at the same moment I left. From their viewpoint, I will only have aged more than expected.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 14
13. after the flash of light is gone are you then in another time? what does it look like as the new time
unfolds? Is it just there? or does it slowly come into view? does it fade in and out for a time?
While the machine is on. Everything is black. When the machine is turned off, it is the reverse affect. It
appears you are driving out from a bridge. To tell you the truth, I'm usually sleeping when the unit turns off but yes...it does appear that the
world fades in from black.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 15
14. what happens if the device messes up? Do you end up in space? if it goes offline and shifts ? does a hole
Good question!!! That one almost never comes up. The hard part of traveling through time is not the
bending of gravity but the plotting of your course and holding to the basic "position" in your environment. This is done through a system called VGL
(variable gravity lock). Basically, the unit takes a reading of the local gravity and samples it during the "trip" in pulses. If the gravity is too
far off, the unit stops or reverses itself to the last sample period where the readings were correct. If there is some sort of failure, the unit shuts
down and drops out to where ever you may be.
05 November 2000 03:29 (about time travel) 16
15. what affects are caused on the immediate area where the gravity has been distorted after you leave it and
when you arrive? are there permanent effects left on the land such as electromagnetic disturbances in that area?
Another good question!!! The only real physical trace is a large chunk of ground missing from the point of
origin and a large pile of dirt at the destination. The gravity field surrounds a small portion of the earth under you and takes it along for the
ride. There is really no way around this.
06 November 2000 09:04 (about time travel) 17
Yes, you can travel forward in time. No, you do not need an “invite” from the future.
06 November 2000 09:04 (about time travel) 18
You do not rewrite history. I can only affect what happens here just as easily as you can
06 November 2000 09:08 (about the future) 19
No, the ice caps are not melting any faster than they are now. There is also far less smog and industrial waste in 2036.
06 November 2000 16:43 (about the future) 20
You asked about the North Polar ice pack. I never said the environment wasn't a problem. Doesn't water expand when it freezes? If the polar ice cap
melted, wouldn't sea level go down? I don't know if there's enough ice for this to make a difference and I'm not an expert on global warming.
06 November 2000 16:43 (about time travel) 21
Getting back to my “proper” universe is tricky but possible. Yes, another jump would take me to a different family.
06 November 2000 16:43 (about time travel) 22
Cement block…good question. The hard part of traveling to other world lines is just that. There is a system of clocks and gravity sensors that sample
the environment before dropping out. Its called VGL, (variable gravity lock). If a cement block were there, the machine would “backtrack” until it
sensed relative congruity to the original gravity sample. A great deal of time and effort goes into picking just the right spot since you can not
physically move during a displacement.
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 23
1. can you explain to me in detail the basic physics and mathematics behind how the machine operates? and
exactly how it distorts gravity.
1) Time travel is achieved by altering gravity. This concept is already proven by atomic clock
experiments. The closer an observer is to a gravity source (high mass), the slower time passes for them. Traveling at high speeds mimics this effect
which = the twin paradox of faster than light travel. However, this type of gravity manipulation is not sufficient to alter your world line. The basic
math to alter world lines exists right now. Tipler first described a working "time machine" through his theory of massive rotating spheres.
I apologize for the web site but it was the only one I could find quickly. www.geocities.com...
Certain types of
black holes also exhibit the "time travel" abilities of Tipler cylinders. Kerr was one of the first to describe the dual event horizons of a
rotating black hole. As with Tipler's cylinders, it was possible to travel on a "time-like" trip through a Kerr black hole and end up in a
different world line without being squished by the gravity of the singularity.
The mass and gravitational field of a microsingularity can then be manipulated by "injecting" electrons onto its surface. By rotating two electric
microsigularities at high speed, it is possible to create and modify a local gravity sinusoid that replicates the affects of a Kerr black hole. For
those asking how come a microsingularity doesn't swallow the Earth or want to know details about the size, stability, mass, temperature and resulting
Hawking radiation from such a thing.. those details I must keep to myself.
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 24
2. can you travel to the future as well as the past? my understanding of the machine is the trip is recorded so
you can get back to your original time line but what about a future beyond your time line are you able to access it as well? or does it have to be
open by a future chrononaunt?
Yes, you can travel into the future and it takes less energy than going into the past.
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 25
3.I dont see the computer in the device. is it the hand held device on the side of the larger device? If so what
kind of power supply does the computer work off of is it the battery as well or some type of crystal?
The computer system is connected to the unit through an electrical bus. There are actually three computers
linked together that take the same signals from the gravity sensors and clocks. They use a Borda error correcting protocol that checks the integrity
of the data and trips the VGL system.
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 26
4.Is your DNA remaining stable in this world or does it shift? does time traveling affect your body or aura or
spirit in any way you know of?
4) I am not aware of any physical change to my DNA or "aura". I do however seem to be more susceptible
06 November 2000 22:13 (about time travel) 27
5. when you go back to the future will we remember you?
Yes, you will remember me if you want to. World lines do not change that way and I will only become a
insignificant part of your history.
07 November 2000 17:18 (about time travel) 28
I would equate the "future" GM distortion units to their current jet engines. The first one worked great but they can always make it better. The
C204 unit uses 4 cesium clocks. The C206 uses 6 cesium clocks but they use an optical system to check the oscillation frequency. This makes the world
line divergance confidence much higher.