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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
I say we give the people that really affect our society, teachers, social workers, day care givers, the people that give you your McBreakfast and cleans your toilets -comparable wages vs the ass&oles who sit with their feet upon their desk and really just plan how to screw over the rest of humanity.
Now come on, logically speaking, an actor or CEO should not really earn the millions of dollars they pull in...........come on people, compute what the real value of actual value is.
Originally posted by Flatfish
reply to post by 2manyquestions
Let me ask you this; Where in this country can an individual pay rent & utilities, feed & clothe themselves and remain healthy on $300.00 gross pay per week? This doesn't even take into account any dependents whatsoever.
If he can't afford these things then we, the taxpayers, are making up the difference through social services and the company is sluffing off part of the true cost of their product on us.
It's like health care, if a persons employer is not providing it or at least paying the employee enough to afford his own private policy, then we the taxpayers are picking up a portion of the true cost of maintaining a healthy workforce for that employer. It's not just that company's employees that are getting screwed, we all are.
Originally posted by dawnstar
reply to post by 2manyquestions
there's is one small flaw to your "blame the gov't"....
the low wages were here long before the handouts were around!
the lack of them either didn't force the workers to demand higher wages, or well...their demand went ignored...but at one time, ya know, when the companies were basically left alone to run the companies unhindered by the gov't.....it would take a family of seven earning a wage to provide the funds needed to provide for that family!
now days, if one were to refuse a job because of the low wage being offered, well, there's plenty out there that would take it regardless of how low the wage were, simply because they don't want a higher wage, unless of course it's high enough to provide what they are getting from the gov't aide, or there is an illegal that will take it.
we need the low wages to keep american companies competitive with other countries....
only, we have a high cost of living because we are also serving as the world's consumers...not to mention feeding the greed of a bunch of "we worked hard, we deserve the best in life" paper pushers.
this would not, could not work, without gov't picking up part of the tab!!
and, well, because of the greed, it isn't working!!!
Originally posted by Flatfish
reply to post by 2manyquestions
I'm sorry but the world you describe is one without compassion and I just as soon not participate in it. Just because someone is always willing to work for slave wages doesn't make it the right thing to perpetuate. It just demonstrates how desperate those who would take that job have become under our current system.
I'm sorry but in my book, all your excuses for continuing under the present system don't hold water. There is no excuse for condemning people to a below poverty level existence while corporate profit margins and CEO pay soar through the roof. It's greed, plain and simple. There is no pretty way to paint the situation.
Corporate mentality and greed are destroying America by suppressing wages and perpetuating a system that resembles legalized slavery. Actually, I believe that many slave owners of the past probably took better care of their workers than a lot of american corporations do today. I'm sorry but I can't just sit there and watch my fellow man being so repressed by the wealthy class without at least attempting to do something to correct the abuse.
What happened to, "All For One & One for All?" Has that been converted into another hollow republican slogan with little or no meaning? In my view, noting could be so un-american as sitting in the lap of luxury while ignoring the plight of our fellow americans who live in poverty and squalor are so desperately in need of help.
When I go down that path an old bible quote comes to mind, "But Were It Not For The Grace Of God, There Go I."
It is this fundamental idea of looking out for one another's best interest that separates those who would favor unions from those who would oppose them. There is a class of people in America today who demonstrate more compassion for their pets than they do towards their employees or their fellow man and as the current situation in Bell, CA. is proving, just because you can get away with it, doesn't make it the right thing to do.