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Originally posted by Hefficide
Originally posted by badgerprints
This statement I agree with wholeheartedly.
As for the line about no life....we differ on that completely. I still see abortion as taking a life.
I also agree that abortion is taking a life. I don't believe in abortion, though I support a womans right to choose. What I meant is that if a woman aborts then it does not result in the birth of a child that will require financial support.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
The entire State apparatus is designed to loot as much money from men as possible.
Originally posted by Jenna
Before there is a heartbeat, I don't consider it murder. And yes, in my mind an abortion is preferable to 9 months of being abused and tortured in the womb. I perhaps should have made it clear to begin with, but just for future reference should anyone try to accuse me of anything I do not under any circumstances support abortion after there is a heartbeat.
If you had any idea how many children are left to rot in foster care because no one wants to adopt them you wouldn't be advocating that as an alternative.
I see it every day. No one wants the older kids who might have behavioral/mental issues because of what their parents did or didn't do. They want the babies more often than not.
Blood tests each week should be done to enforce this.
Invasion of privacy. Perhaps we should do weekly sperm counts on men to see if they're capable of creating children.
Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by TarzanBeta
Abortion is an extreme measure and has nothing to do with reality of being a parent to a living breathing child. Once kid is there, there is both a mother and a father, its a nature reality check. These issues are apples and oranges!