Medical groups urge flu shots for pregnant women

Medical groups urge flu shots for pregnant women

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WASHINGTON – Flu season may not sound as scary for pregnant women this year as last — but they're still at high risk and need that shot, says a letter being mailed to thousands of health providers this week from some leading medical societies.

Any kind of flu is risky during pregnancy, for mother and baby. But last year's swine flu pandemic brought extra attention to the need for vaccination: Government data shows pregnant women account for only 1 percent of the population but represented 5 percent of swine flu deaths.

This year brings a return to the usual one-dose flu vaccine, wh

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What gives? De-population? Are they planning to genetically alter babies?

I find this very strange, and very disturbing!!!!!

It's like swine flu all over again.

Were I a pregnant woman, I would not get this shot!!!!!

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Welcome to tyranny. Guilty until proven innocent. (Note: You can never be proven innocent because you can never undo the act of vaccinating.)

A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.

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i urge any pregnant women reading this to not get vaccinated.

this is simply an attempt to immunize children before they are even out of the womb.

depopulation scam
Watch your pregnancy END asap.

i find this a PARAMOUNT issue!!!!!

i would even suggest the ATS people feature this topic. not for my glory, but because i really think it is VITAL!!!!!

If such an immunisation was to make the offspring infertile, it would be a long, long time before this was known about.

With such strong indication TPTB want to drastically lower Earth's population, and vaccines causing infertility being foisted on women in third world coutries as Polio vaccines, one would be silly or uninformed to be too trusting.

I suspect the "cervical cancer" vaccine is another way of lowering fertility.
If each vaccine lowers fertility slightly, there is no way the cause can ever be proven.

Think about it, which country gives the most vaccines to its children?
Which country has experienced the sharpest drop in fertility?

So, you guys think "the powers that be" are dastardly and cunning enough to develop a vaccine to lower the world's population, but that they have failed to reduce that population for hundreds of years, and are continuing to fail?

I mean, you guys know the population goes UP every year, not down..right?

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
So, you guys think "the powers that be" are dastardly and cunning enough to develop a vaccine to lower the world's population, but that they have failed to reduce that population for hundreds of years, and are continuing to fail?

I mean, you guys know the population goes UP every year, not down..right?

Where does this "hundreds of years" come from?
I doubt anyone here believes TPTB have been working at lowering the population for that long.

There was already concern in the Western world in the1940's about overpopulation in Asia, but no reason to believe anyone was actively lowering the population back then.
www.theage.com.au...

I expressed concern that current immunisations may be designed to lower fertility. Continued population growth means nothing, it's the fertility stats you need to look at to see if fertility is dropping. Eventually, a continual reduction in fertility will lead to a drop in population, but that's a slow process.

So lets look at some data on fertility.

UNFPA Country Profiles for Population and Reproductive Health
Country Total Fertility Rate per Woman 15-49

Afghanistan: 1990 - 8, 2009 - 6.4
Albania: 1990 - 2.9, 2009 - 1.8
Algeria: 1990 - 4.7, 2009 - 2.3
Angola: 1990 - 7.2, 2009 - 5.5
Argentina: 1990 - 3, 2009 - 2.2
Armenia: 1990 - 2.5, 2009 - 1.7
Azerbaijan: 1990 - 2.9, 2009 - 2.2
Bahamas: 1990 - 2.6, 2009 - 2
Bahrain: 1990 - 3.7, 2009 - 2.2
Bangladesh: 1990 - 4.4, 2009 - 2.2
Belarus: 1990 - 1.9, 2009 - 1.3
Belize: 1990 - 4.5, 2009 - 2.8
Benin: 1990 - 6.8, 2009 - 5.4
Bhutan: 1990 - 5.7, 2009 - 2.5
Bolivia: 1990 - 4.9, 2009 - 3.4
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 1990 - 1.7, 2009 - 1.2
Botswana: 1990 - 4.5, 2009 - 2.8
Brazil: 1990 - 2.9, 2009 - 1.8
Bulgaria: 1990 - 1.7, 2009 - 1.5
Burkina Faso: 1990 - 7.3, 2009 - 5.9
Burundi: 1990 - 6.8, 2009 - 4.4
Cambodia: 1990 - 5.6, 2009 - 2.8
Cameroon: 1990 - 5.9, 2009 - 4.6
Cape Verde: 1990 - 5.5, 2009 - 2.6
Central African Republic: 1990 - 5.6, 2009 - 4.7
Chad: 1990 - 6.7, 2009 - 6.1
Chile: 1990 - 2.6, 2009 - 1.9
China: 1990 - 2.2, 2009 - 1.8
Colombia: 1990 - 3.1, 2009 - 2.4
Comoros: 1990 - 6.2, 2009 - 3.9
Congo: 1990 - 6.3, 2009 - 4.3
Congo, Democratic Republic: 1990 - 6.7, 2009 - 5.9
Costa Rica: 1990 - 3.2, 2009 - 1.9
Côte D'Ivoire: 1990 - 6.6, 2009 - 4.5
Cuba: 1990 - 1.7, 2009 - 1.5
Czech Republic:1990 - 1.8, 2009 - 1.5
India: 1990 - 4, 2009 - 2.7

America: Births per 1000 population per year.
White, Black
1990 - 15.8, 22.4
2000 - 13.9, 17.0
eh.net...

2009 - 13.5 births per 1000 population per year
en.wikipedia.org...

I could have quoted A to Z, but A to C seems to prove the point already.

(My apologies, but tabbing does not appear to work in posts here.)

reply to post by Kailassa


Once again, correlation does not imply causation. You did not even go through the effort to see if these differences in fertility rate are significantly different. Then you actually have to go through the effort to show that inoculations are the cause if fertility rates are significantly less now. You can't just give two stats and say that you have proven your case, especially when all you're looking at is a correlation with a ton of lurking variables.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
Once again, correlation does not imply causation. You did not even go through the effort to see if these differences in fertility rate are significantly different. Then you actually have to go through the effort to show that inoculations are the cause if fertility rates are significantly less now. You can't just give two stats and say that you have proven your case, especially when all you're looking at is a correlation with a ton of lurking variables.

Well duh ...

Where did I say the drop in fertility, apparently occuring in practically every country in the world over the past 19 years, is proof of anything?

I was merely answering the claim by VneZonyDostupa that a continued rise in world population was proof my postulated attacks on fertility were not happening.

Using A to prove that B does not disprove C does not equal a claim that A is proof of C.

I don't think the depopulation began or was even part of the agenda until the 1980s.

and since then, the growth rate HAS declined.

I don't think its a scam just stupid doctors and drug companies. The more vaccines they sell the more money they get. Pregnant women are just another target audience. I would do anything to protect my baby. However I'm not a naive person, I read other studies, and ask my doctor questions and concerns. The drug companies prey on the naive people and then they make money. No conspiracy really just sales.

reply to post by VneZonyDostupa

You don't have an answer?
C'mon, every country I could find has had a fertility decrease. Please come back and explain why TPTB could not possibly be responsible for that.

Strange how fast you disappear when you're proved wrong.

reply to post by 19872012


wow thats nasty, are these vaccines still using mercury, or derivative of for a preservative as well? I heard some are up to 50%

Please, no shots for pregnant womern.

Why are medical people recommending this?

No, no, no!

reply to post by Kailassa


There could be a lot of reasons for it, but to come to the conclusion that it must be vaccines is foolish. It seems like vaccines are like HAARP, they get blamed for everything wrong, yet no proof has ever been offered to show that this is the case.

i work in an OB/GYN office. Last year we vaccinated most of our OB patients, id say 90-95%. There were some who declined and that was ok. And we had some requests for the thimerisol free, which we bought for them. All in all, because of this we saw many less OB flu complications than in past years. The flu is dangerous for pregnant women. We also vaccinated for swine flu. Out of almost 4000 patients we saw not one flu shot complication. Im sorry but some of you are just paranoid.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
There could be a lot of reasons for it, but to come to the conclusion that it must be vaccines is foolish. It seems like vaccines are like HAARP, they get blamed for everything wrong, yet no proof has ever been offered to show that this is the case.

As I have already stated in this thread:

"Well duh ...

Where did I say the drop in fertility, apparently occuring in practically every country in the world over the past 19 years, is proof of anything?

I was merely answering the claim by VneZonyDostupa that a continued rise in world population was proof my postulated attacks on fertility were not happening.

Using A to prove that B does not disprove C does not equal a claim that A is proof of C."

reply to post by catwhoknows

Because it reduces risk of getting the flu.

I mean why would they want to keep women or children dieing over a simple and common virus?

It amazes me how many medically UN-trained people give medical advice.