GRR...can someone please tell me how to properly embed an ATS media video?
Regarding the puffs of smoke around the 1:57 mark: I initially didn't even see them and then wasn't sure what to make of the them. I made a short
clip to make it easier to analyze this. It's about a 5 second clip looped 3 times followed by the same clip in slow motion. The effect I see is
reminiscent of a fireplace bellows. The majority of these air bursts come from existing places of smoke being released and it appears all of them are
coming from existing holes, or windows, that have been blown out. There's also an air burst on the far right side in the lowest area of smoke but
above the bottom of the hole. The thing that mostly supports the fireplace bellow for me is that the fire also changes intensity at the same moment,
indicating a rush of air from something. If something fell or collapsed within the building because of the fire, it could be responsible for what's
seen. I don't see any smoke reacting to an air rush from the outside which is suggestive of something from within. I don't think it's related to the
approaching plane. I believe I saw squibs and flashes that suggest controlled demolition, among other reasons, when the building came down but I
don't see them here.
As long as I was editing video I also placed the aircraft issue from the 1:30 mark. The first clip is full frame at regular speed followed by a close
up at regular speed and finally the close up in slow motion. It's clearly a helicopter in my eyes and I can even see the main rotors, especially in
the zoomed in slow motion part.
Video clip direct link
reply to post by Human_Alien
(click to open player in new window)
(Earlier post) Neither you nor anyone you were with thought of terrorists when the second plane hit? I gotta be honest, that pretty much got
my brain moving in that direction really quick when that happened. One plane, with sketchy details, seemed like an accident. Two planes hitting
essentially the same building within 20 minutes of each other, on a sunny day is no coincidence. It seemed purposeful and it seemed like an attack
although I didn't have any names or places to attribute it to. I too was thinking about what was going to happen to the towers once the fires were
out while it was occurring. Maybe being in construction made me think that way and probably my own mechanisms of dealing with it persuaded my mind
thinking that way but I didn't see it as too far fetched.
reply to post by Human_Alien
(Later post) Let me start by stating that I'm a truther but I have some issues with your thoughts. After the first plane hit I believe
everyone's eyes were on the burning tower, not affixed to the skies. You admitted
that you yourself thought it was an accident and were trying to
process what you were seeing. When an accident happens people focus on the accident. I would find it more suspicious if people were expecting
something else to happen. I believe peoples eyes, ears, thoughts and focus were on the tragedy that already occurred. Who was expecting another
plane to hit and who had enough foresight to be actively looking for and getting ready to record it?
I'm not surprised that there's not more video of the second plane hitting. I believe most people were either watching it on TV, going about their
everyday task without knowing about it, listening to it on the radio or watching it live, visually focusing on the smoke and flames of the tower. I'm
not surprised that those who were watching it live in the city didn't see more either. Like you, I'm sure many were simply trying to process what was
going on at the time. I know a plane is loud but this is NYC with lots of distractions, especially at the time. I tend to think everyone was
visually paying attention to the burning tower like I previously mentioned. I think other senses were heightened, mainly visual, and hearing was
lessened. The sirens, especially at street level, were very loud at the time in addition to the normal ambient noise level of the city. People were
paying attention to the burning tower, not looking in the sky for more attacking aircraft. If there were more video I think the question being asked
would simply be how did they know it was coming?
How accurate are eye witnesses during a time like this and how many can accurately compare the size of a plane in relation to a building at that
height? I believe most people can differentiate the size of a small or large plane while it's parked at an airport but how many can actually do so at
a great rate of speed in an unexpected environment? I also think psychology comes into play here as who could've fathomed the possibility of a large
commercial aircraft crashing into a building? How many times has that happened before in comparison to smaller planes crashing into buildings? The
MSM saying they thought it was a missile isn't relevant for me as they're only human eye witnesses too or reporting what's others have said in a time
of pure chaos. As an example, eye witnesses believed they heard and saw a plane crash that caused the San Bruno fire but it doesn't mean it was true.
You said you were living in NY at the time, any chance in NYC? If so what did you see and hear?
reply to post by mark1167
Can you post a link to the thread and video? I wouldn't mind comparing the sounds for all to hear.
reply to post by Section31
Seriously? I see something in the shade. I think you're looking too hard to find something wrong.
edit on 9/15/2010 by Three_moons because: added words