Originally posted by krossfyter
ahh welcome to last month. i posted this kind of post some time ago. but rock on lets go at it again. i WITHOUT A DOUBT believe Jesus is God in human form.... i can never be moved from that belief no matter what anyone says. Jesus has manifested himself to me as such after i sincerely asked God to reveal to me the truth about him. So thats about as stable as you can get on a belief.

Anyways.. in regards to the suppose "contradictions" you posted...


you have to understand that Jesus came for a number of reasons.
you also have to understand that Jesus while... fully God is also fully human. Sometimes he spoke on the human level to communicate with us on our level on how to communicate with God. Conversly sometimes he spoke on Gods level. This is why you have a "why have thou forsaken me" when he was on the cross speaking to the father... his human side was speaking... and this is why you have "I and the father are one"... making him on par with God... which one in there right mind has claimed. This is why you see a contradiction... because in a "linear" sense it doesnt make sense. But if you stand back and look at it from a "circular" perspective then you can begin to understand a bit more... doesnt mean you have to agree though. Regardless of all the interllectual mumbo jumbo that people like to spew out in debate..... Jesus is God incarnate to me not just intellectually but also in heart. Thats something that cant be shaken. EVER.

good debate though...for the sake of debate i guess.


rock it

Originally posted by krossfyter
i guess for you to get close to understanding this you have to understand the trinity concept. if you think linear its hard for anyone to grasp the trinity. and no im not thinking linear... perhaps my lack of skill in explaining what im thinking doesnt do any justice to anything and perhaps it seems linear to you. regardless... if you cant simply begin in trying to comrhend the trinity on the surface... it would be hard for you to understand the Truth about Jesus.

while fully God he is also fully human. Why do people like to limit GOd? Why cant he come down on the human level to speak to us on our level and yet remain fully God?????? Seems like if you dont like to begin to belief that or dont want to or whatever.. you are limiting God.
nothings impossible for God. why do people think this is to impossible for him? heck man... its more logical to put your trust in someone whos been through the same pains you have been through.. why must God be so lofty? why cant he be personal? i understand you may never believe in Jesus as God incarnate but you must at least reconginze my perspective because its legit... im not alone in this belief. if you want to really debate about this and get into it at least understand this perspective and respect it... you dont have to believe in it. i dont agree with your perspective but i do respect it.




[Edited on 15-3-2003 by krossfyter]

Originally posted by CHAVEZ

In other words, your belief is based on nothing.

Originally posted by CHAVEZ
I have yet to see Jesus speak of the "Holy Trinity" in the bible.