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Originally posted by traditionaldrummer
I simply disagree. Science and mystics often investigate the very same things.
The mystics simply tends to provide different answers for various phenomena than science. The fact that mystics still exist is that many humans either don't know or don't care for the rather routine, unexciting scientific explanations for human transcendental experiences. Mysticism is easy: it hasn't the lab to test its hypotheses like that which scientists use.
Of course science or mystics don't have all the answers. But science is the best known tool to date for determining the truth as best as we can approximate it.
I agree with you on the science bit. I don't mind people believing in god, but it's this arrogance and confidence they have that they know they know what god is.
Any human has no business and no power in even beginning to understand something as big as 'god.'
God is definitely a creation of man. If a godly figure wanted to be known (if that's even possible), then it would make itself known instead of leaving the world divided up and hating over each other over who has the right system in place. You know, get over yourselves!
Originally posted by Rockpuck
Every little thing from the smallest molecule to the largest solar systems act based on what Scientist call the Natural Order.. and that's what I think God is, the rules that define and regulate our chaotic universe.
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Yeah, but most people don't like to equate god with a natural force or structure to the universe. That's a little impersonal for most people, who prefer their gods to have a direct and sincere interest in their individual well-being and fate. God as gravity or light generally doesn't cut it. And that goes double for the people who actually believe that God looks like a human being and has the same basic emotional range and motivations.
If you want to define God as "everything," then that's fine, although there's a paradox in defining God as a separate thing and everything at the same time. A subset that encompasses an entirety. That just doesn't make any sense.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Its a fun theory, the holographic universe that is.
pity radioactive particles debunks it completely...why create a imaginary virtual world with it falling apart the whole time.
Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing.
Originally posted by Hot_Wings
Funny how the scientists love to claim the “Laws of Physics” when attempting to explain away GOD and creation. However, those same scientists claim that the “Laws of Physics” also break down and do not hold true in all situations, especially when concerning the infinitesimally small or impossibly mind bogglingly great.
Yet no one asks, “If they are laws, then how can they be broken, or not hold true, and still remain laws?” Instead, they simply claim that “New laws, or different laws”, now apply to the situation of sub atomic physics or the big bang theory.
But the reality is that the scientists are now too proud to admit that they truly know nothing, no matter how many new laws they invent for the new situations which break the old supposed “laws”. GOD shows them their pride and ignorance when their laws break down upon the sub atomic level, and because the sub atomic relates to the greater whole, their suppositions of the universe at large are also incorrect and fleeting. But do they show humility in light of what they do not know? Of course not, instead, they only show pride and arrogance.
Imaging for a moment how insane you would feel if you were to realistically claim that you understand how the universe was made. But you do not claim this because it would seem absurd for you make such a claim to know that which no earthling can understand in its entirety. Then why do you not hold the scientists accountable for the same flaw when they should claim to know that which they do not.
It is a theory, and just that, a guess, and remember, it doesn't hold true in all cases, as none of the laws of physics apparently do given the unimaginable circumstances within the universe and beyond it. Their claims of knowledge are as pathetic and meaningless as the so called educated scientists were when they claimed that the world was flat. They still cannot to this day tell you when the sun will have its bursts, or when and where the asteroids will fall without a thousand upon thousand observations and measurements, and you will let them tell you that GOD does not exist? Don't be the arrogant fool that they are. If you find it strange that an educated man would say, “There is not GOD” do not be alarmed for the haughty, arrogant, and prideful are not looking for GOD, and so, they will always claim that he does not exist, for they must deny GOD or else if they should attempt to look for him then they would also be forced to see themselves for what they really are.
Rememeber, that the Church also has its astronomers and scientists as well. It is only that they realize with faith that GOD fully does exist, in all HIS glory and magesty.
[edit on 2-9-2010 by Hot_Wings]