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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 03:49 AM
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I have seen alot of people firing back in the forums, asking those they label "anti-american" to compare their countries alleged crimes to that of other countries.

America, you pride yourself on being the best at everything.. Good on you, seriously, patriotism and pride is a good thing!
But when you make mistakes you can't all of a sudden compare yourself to others. How are you going to keep being the best if you benchmark yourself against 'lesser' countries?
Now all of a sudden it's not only ok to make mistakes but also ok to let those mistakes continue because of others have done wrong?
You are like a big brother thumping his little brother and blaming him for hitting others. No other country WAS a threat to you.. you were not even attacked by another country.
The world knows your power America, you don't need flex your muscle.
In the end we all know family violence leads nowhere - your little brothers and sisters now grow in fear of you as you continue to attack and show no remorse for the comparitvely heavy pounding you are dishing out.

America the reason the world singles you out is because your actions effect ALL of us.


I want to finish by saying:

You already have children in this world whos only life experience is the war you have brought to their country, they do not care who was right and who was wrong or what your reasons are. They care that their mommy and daddy arnt around anymore and should they somehow manage to survive growing up under your attacks.. you can be damn sure that child is going to feel no reason to live. When that child has no reason to live he is not going to understand your reasons either. He is not going to understand you reasons for war when someone tell's him your country killed his mother and father and he is not going to understand your reasons when he blows himself up just to try and show you a fraction of the pain you have caused him in his life.
No matter your intentions your wars.. (yes they are wars, they are undecleared wars no need to pretty it up) these wars create HATE and hate can only lead to more hate and that means more suffering. The war doesnt end when you stop fighting it ends when the hate is overcome by reason. Give that child that becomes your enemy reason to stop hating you. Take the higher road and be the bigger country, let it go, stop the hate.




posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 04:28 AM
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Well said!

Been thinking this for years.

S+F for you mate.

Kyle



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 04:52 AM
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I am not one bit anti-american, I just dont enjoy how i am treated in the U.S.A. on my travels from Canada. But i understand you cant account a whole nation for a few peoples actions.



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 04:54 AM
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byteshertz,

Ehmmm....My country (The Netherlands) is the size of the average American backyard. We can afford to keep a neutral standpoint when somebody attacks the principles on which the "free world" is based. When America does this, the free world is more likely to fall...


America the reason the world singles you out is because your actions effect ALL of us.


Both good and bad.


these wars create HATE and hate can only lead to more hate and that means more suffering.


Conflict of ideology creates war....so letting go of your ideology would solve the conflict? Somehow that doesn't do it for me.

Just saying, S+F though...


Peace



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 05:01 AM
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Hey Canuk! No worries mate. You're as much American as those from Brazil.

...at least with regards to verbiage common in any encyclopedia. Going from one town to another within Canada is traveling from America to America.

"America" is not a country in itself, it is two continents. Some people colloquially use "Amerika" for the union of 50 sovereign republics which predominantly (49/50) inhabit North America; although, just because they're within the union doesn't mean they run the gambit with that "America" label.

Believe me, there's plenty of room for the Canuks, the Mexicans, Peruvians and even the Venezuelans! Let's not allow our minds to focus upon a single race, a single language, a single religion, or a single geographical location. Let's be multi-geographical after all!



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 05:03 AM
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Wait so you are saying we should go up against a country with equal military power? Hmm well it seems that they are all pretty much our allies.... We are the world police... We stand up for the little guys getting pushed around. You want to take over a country? No!!! If you choose to do so you will see America there. That is one thing you little "know it alls" never EVER remember!!! We defend the underdog, and it just so happens the countries that screw up with world agreements and what not are smaller countries with retards running them. We would go to bat for ANY country in the world if they were being done wrong. [Snip]

We are a nation that thrives on wars, yes this is true. But there are so many dictators out there doing their own people wrong!!! You think the war in Iraq is wrong? Yea they had nothing to do with 9/11 but at the same time you need to do some research on Sadam. And no I don't mean when we used to fund him... Look at the horrible things he has done to his OWN countrymen and women. I swear some people need to get a clue.

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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 05:08 AM
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We the people have a right to criticise our country. Given the role of the US in the world arena the world has a right to criticise America. Criticism of a superpower comes with democracy.

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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 05:12 AM
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Yea go ahead and talk bad about America and Americans. But the people of the world that we help out when in need thank us for being there when NO other country will or would. Take Pakistan for instance, how bout Haiti, and Georgia. the list could go on for days and days my friend.



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 05:18 AM
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Sir at least go back and read my post. I will give you the undeserved complement of assuming that you could not have read it.

For your information I wrote "we the people" as I have american citizenship and a few others. As I have written upteen times America is a great counrty that has given the world a lot in its short life. Perhaps as a Brit I am a bit more wary of the Blind Patriotism that you clearly espouse.

Don't get me started on what is wrong with Britain (where I live) or the internet may grind to a halt


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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 05:34 AM
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I also currently live in Britian at an RAF installation. And yea both our countries have it's problems. I did read your post. And I am not blind. I have seen first hand us supplying aid and helping the less fortunate in Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, Quatar, Kuwait, Haiti, Gerogia. So if that is blind patriotism then I guess I am guilty.

I didn't mean for my post to be a type of insult to you btw. I could tell that you were not bashing the US.


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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Reign02
Wait so you are saying we should go up against a country with equal military power?


No - where did that come from? I don't agree with war for any reason.


Hmm well it seems that they are all pretty much our allies....

Dono where this is going but go slap china on the back of the head and see what happens.


We are the world police...


I dont remember giving America permission to be in control of me or even my country for that matter. America appointed its self "world police" people sought aid from the biggest fattest country of the world, you all patted yourself on the back for it and now you expect to be able to dish out orders and fight wars and take the resources you want because you are the "world police"? Talk about not reading the fine print. That kind approach is exactly what has distorted and corrupted America and will bring it to it's knees.


We stand up for the little guys getting pushed around.


You stand on the little guys and helpt them push each other around


You want to take over a country? No!!! If you choose to do so you will see America there. That is one thing you little "know it alls" never EVER remember!!!

Yeah America will be there to supply weapons to both sides, place bets with all countries and walk away with a win all round when they find out its snake eyes.


We defend the underdog, and it just so happens the countries that screw up with world agreements and what not are smaller countries with retards running them.



We would go to bat for ANY country in the world if they were being done wrong. That is what you ignorant anti-American tards don't get or understand.

And who goes to bat when your country does wrong?


We are a nation that thrives on wars, yes this is true. But there are so many dictators out there doing their own people wrong!!!


Agreed, but you have people in your country that are being done wrong by your government, why not fix that first.


You think the war in Iraq is wrong? Yea they had nothing to do with 9/11 but at the same time you need to do some research on Sadam. And no I don't mean when we used to fund him... Look at the horrible things he has done to his OWN countrymen and women. I swear some people need to get a clue.


Congratulations you killed a bad guy who kills innocent people, how many innocent people did you need to kill that one man? Do you really believe with the size of your military budget, not even including your blackops budget and all the technology America has that they could not get close enough to kill one man? America toots it's own horn so much and then all of a sudden you dont have the technology? If America really wanted Saddam dead immediatly it would be over before dinner time and would be a 1 min clip on the news before the war even began.



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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by Reign02
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Yea go ahead and talk bad about America and Americans. But the people of the world that we help out when in need thank us for being there when NO other country will or would. Take Pakistan for instance, how bout Haiti, and Georgia. the list could go on for days and days my friend.


History lesson: Most of the world was fighting long before the US got involved in WW2, many other countries have also joined you in fighting your current wars but have pulled our after realising they are fighting a battle that can not be won because it has no enemy or bounds.

Doing good things does not give you the right to bad things and how about Katrina, your borders, your streets? For patriots you dont seem to care about your fellow countrymen very much as you dedicate resources that could be used to save their lives to interfering in other countries;
America does it for it's own interests not anyone elses. You can try and pretty up the picture all you want but the fact is you are taking innocent lives and claim it is to save innocent live - sorry on behalf of myself and the rest of the world for not understanding your logic.

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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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Oops
you try posting from a 2 nd gen iPod touch running ios4!!!

I will have to wait till a pc falls into my lap


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posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:13 AM
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I have a degree in world history... I didn't say that other countries weren't fighting in WWII. Then it wouldn't be called World War II....

How are we taking innocent lives?? 98% of the time they shoot at us first!! We are NOT allowed to engage unless they engage us or they are engaging civilians... You don't know the ROE for Iraq/Afghanistan so don't talk like you know what is going on right now because you don't.

And yea we do things all over the world to help ourselves out. Why would we just do it out of the kindness of our hearts? Other countries won't. We knock out 2 birds with 1 stone by helping other countries out. We get what we want and they get (for the most part) what they want.

And you can try and take my pretty picture and smear black paint all over it to make it ugly as possible but atleast someone somewhere will think of it as a thing of beauty. You having been reading too much propaganda my friend...



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:22 AM
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Why would we slap China on the back of the head? Makes no sense....

We didn't need permission to help out other countries.... Nobody else will do it because they are too scared to get involved in the world.



When our country goes wrong nobody will because they are too scared to help people out when in need. WE give the aid to countries and supply their military with our old equipment. We are all over the world making sure nobody is making unfair moves on anyone else. While the other countries sit back and relax because they know America will help them out....

The military is not responsible for fixing America... We defend her from foreign and domestic enemies looking to overthrow and assassinate our leaders....

It is kind of hard to get close to one man when he is hiding in a hole in the middle of the desert.... Or in the mountains.... It is not like we have a GPS locator on everyone......

Sadam palace was bombed in the shock and awe campain. He obviously was tipped off... probably by CNN. And even if we did just kill Sadam one of his brothers or other members would have taken his place. We went to IRaq to remove the regime not just Sadam. You are just showing how much you really know about these wars....



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:25 AM
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I dont think the vietnamese attacked us first. Nor the Columbians, the Serbs, the philipinos. We dont "go to bat", we destroy fledgling democracies and install dictators who cater to our corporate gain. People like saddam, suharto, pinochet, papa doc and baby doc. We armed and trained bin laden and his mujahideen, hailing them as the greatest freedom fighters in the world.
In WW2 we were giving steel and oil to both sides, and several groups, such as the bush family continued to supply the axis even after we entered the war.... and then we elect their descendent president!

We installed banana republics in south america and diamond republics in africa, and continue to destabilize their countries so we can use them as our personal sweat shops and natural resource bins.



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ARGENTINA 1890 Troops Buenos Aires interests protected.
CHILE 1891 Troops Marines clash with nationalist rebels.
HAITI 1891 Troops Black revolt on Navassa defeated.
IDAHO 1892 Troops Army suppresses silver miners' strike.
HAWAII 1893 (-?) Naval, troops Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed.
CHICAGO 1894 Troops Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed.
NICARAGUA 1894 Troops Month-long occupation of Bluefields.
CHINA 1894-95 Naval, troops Marines land in Sino-Japanese War
KOREA 1894-96 Troops Marines kept in Seoul during war.
PANAMA 1895 Troops, naval Marines land in Colombian province.
NICARAGUA 1896 Troops Marines land in port of Corinto.
CHINA 1898-1900 Troops Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies.
PHILIPPINES 1898-1910 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos
CUBA 1898-1902 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still hold Navy base.
PUERTO RICO 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, occupation continues.
GUAM 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still use as base.
MINNESOTA 1898 (-?) Troops Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake.
NICARAGUA 1898 Troops Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur.
SAMOA 1899 (-?) Troops Battle over succession to throne.
NICARAGUA 1899 Troops Marines land at port of Bluefields.
IDAHO 1899-1901 Troops Army occupies Coeur d'Alene mining region.
OKLAHOMA 1901 Troops Army battles Creek Indian revolt.
PANAMA 1901-14 Naval, troops Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone 1914.
HONDURAS 1903 Troops Marines intervene in revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1903-04 Troops U.S. interests protected in Revolution.
KOREA 1904-05 Troops Marines land in Russo-Japanese War.
CUBA 1906-09 Troops Marines land in democratic election.
NICARAGUA 1907 Troops "Dollar Diplomacy" protectorate set up.
HONDURAS 1907 Troops Marines land during war with Nicaragua
PANAMA 1908 Troops Marines intervene in election contest.
NICARAGUA 1910 Troops Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto.
HONDURAS 1911 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.
CHINA 1911-41 Naval, troops Continuous occupation with flare-ups.
CUBA 1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.
PANAMA 1912 Troops Marines land during heated election.
HONDURAS 1912 Troops Marines protect U.S. economic interests.
NICARAGUA 1912-33 Troops, bombing 10-year occupation, fought guerillas
MEXICO 1913 Naval Americans evacuated during revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1914 Naval Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo.
COLORADO 1914 Troops Breaking of miners' strike by Army.
MEXICO 1914-18 Naval, troops Series of interventions against nationalists.
HAITI 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation after revolts.
TEXAS 1915 Troops Federal soldiers crush "Plan of San Diego" Mexican-American rebellion
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine occupation.
CUBA 1917-33 Troops Military occupation, economic protectorate.
WORLD WAR I 1917-18 Naval, troops Ships sunk, fought Germany for 1 1/2 years.
RUSSIA 1918-22 Naval, troops Five landings to fight Bolsheviks
PANAMA 1918-20 Troops "Police duty" during unrest after elections.
HONDURAS 1919 Troops Marines land during election campaign.
YUGOSLAVIA 1919 Troops/Marines intervene for Italy against Serbs in Dalmatia.
GUATEMALA 1920 Troops 2-week intervention against unionists.
WEST VIRGINIA 1920-21 Troops, bombing Army intervenes against mineworkers.
TURKEY 1922 Troops Fought nationalists in Smyrna.
CHINA 1922-27 Naval, troops Deployment during nationalist revolt.
HONDURAS 1924-25 Troops Landed twice during election strife.
PANAMA 1925 Troops Marines suppress general strike.
CHINA 1927-34 Troops Marines stationed throughout the country.
EL SALVADOR 1932 Naval Warships send during Marti revolt.
WASHINGTON DC 1932 Troops Army stops WWI vet bonus protest.
WORLD WAR II 1941-45 Naval, troops, bombing, nuclear Hawaii bombed, fought Japan, Italy and Germay for 3 years; first nuclear war.
DETROIT 1943 Troops Army put down Black rebellion.
IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet troops told to leave north.
YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, naval Response to shoot-down of US plane.
URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength.
GREECE 1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war.
GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases.
IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige.
GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Marine occupation against rebels.
IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
VIETNAM l960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
GERMANY l961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war.
CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union.
IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service.
PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return.
INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Marines land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43 killed.
UNITED STATES l968 Troops After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities.
CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
LAOS l971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside.
SOUTH DAKOTA l973 Command operation Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas.
MIDEAST 1973 Nuclear threat World-wide alert during Mideast War.
CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.
CAMBODIA l975 Troops, bombing Gas captured ship, 28 die in copter crash.
ANGOLA l976-92 Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels.
IRAN l980 Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution.
LIBYA l981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers.
EL SALVADOR l981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash.
NICARAGUA l981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution.
LEBANON l982-84 Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim positions.
GRENADA l983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution.
HONDURAS l983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders.
IRAN l984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
LIBYA l986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple nationalist gov't.
BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on coc aine region.
IRAN l987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war.
LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.
VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm.
PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for government against coup.
PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.
LIBERIA 1990 Troops Foreigners evacuated during civil war.
SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
IRAQ 1990-91 Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait; large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne.
IRAQ 1991-2003 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south; constant air strikes and naval-enforced economic sanctions
LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising.
SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction.
YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup.
ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Marines at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
ALBANIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas plant.
AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies.
IRAQ 1998 Bombing, Missiles Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo. NATO occupation of Kosovo.
YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed.
MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels.
UNITED STATES 2001 Jets, naval Reaction to hijacker attacks on New York, DC
AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S. mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install Karzai regime, and battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S. troops and numerous private security contractors carry our occupation.
YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including a US citizen.
PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat missions in Sulu Archipelago, west of Mindanao.
COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate in invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and Shi'ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous private contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases.
LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping force as rebels drove out leader.
HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines land after right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to leave by Washington.
PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge villages kill multiple civilians. Drone attacks also on Pakistani Mehsud network.
SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, covert operation Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist government; AC-130 strikes and Cruise missile attacks against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against "pirates" and insurgents.
SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians
YEMEN 2009 Missiles Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians.



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:35 AM
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America,
what do you know about this country other than death, death death - portrayed as democracy - freedom and hope.

My god.



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 10:52 AM
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I can tell you that the veterans know more than you guys do. Also the guy who posted all the "stats" I guarantee NONE of those can be 100% confirmed... and as for civilian deaths, yea it happens sometimes. But WW1 and WW2 had A LOT more civilian deaths. These two wars have had the fewest civilian deaths of any major war lasting over a year..... Do better research



posted on Aug, 28 2010 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by byteshertz

You already have children in this world whos only life experience is the war you have brought to their country, they do not care who was right and who was wrong or what your reasons are. They care that their mommy and daddy arnt around anymore and should they somehow manage to survive growing up under your attacks.. you can be damn sure that child is going to feel no reason to live. When that child has no reason to live he is not going to understand your reasons either. He is not going to understand you reasons for war when someone tell's him your country killed his mother and father and he is not going to understand your reasons when he blows himself up just to try and show you a fraction of the pain you have caused him in his life.



Our military industrial complex and big oil run our government. They need a perpetual enemy now that the Russians stopped being the USSR. This is one of the main points of this war. We will always now have an excuse to keep throwing away our tax dollars so the ones that supply the weapons will be guaranteed to keep supplying weapons. This is the reason for the atrocities in Iraq. They want a real terror attack instead of another false flag. They need Americans to believe they are not safe. This is how Hilter did it and this is also how we are doing it.

Its not going to stop. Just like every empire that loses its way it will not stop until it collapses on its own or someone kicks our ass.

America is not what she used to be. All other countries need to come to grips with this sad fact.

Its also not just our government that is the problem either. When this country re-elected Bush it should have been a sign to the world that most of the American people have lost there way too and are compliant.

America will either collapse, or destroy the world by either war or its gigantic multinational corporations choking it to death through pollution.

The world needs to sooner or later face this fact.



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