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1200 out of what, exactly?
Originally posted by NightVision
Here comes the wave of ATSr's who are smarter than 1200 Degreed Architects and Engineers. S&F.
Sorry, but A&E have produced nothing.
You are wrong but what would one expect from people who refuses to read their rebuttals or any of their scientific reports, because one is in total denial and does not want to know the truth.
Originally posted by oniongrass
From Gorman91's turn into a strange dimension where towelheads from the caves of Afghanistan became master pilots of 767s without anyone noticing.
"I don't know what a mechanical / electrical engineer is. I know what a mechanical engineer is and what an electrical engineer is."
gravity at 1 second. The momentum of the top of the towers against the lower parts.
Perhaps a bit of physical foreknowledge is needed here?
Well I guess that says something about what some people claim to UNDERSTAND about engineering.
That is the trouble witha lot of people with degrees. They just memorized the equations.
Every level of the WTC had to be strong enough to support all of the weight above. That meant progressively increasing the amount of steel all of the way down. But more steel means more mass which becomes a factor in the conservation of momentum in a supposed top down gravitational collapse.
When the plane hit the south tower it deflected 15 inches. How much of the plane's kinetic energy went into that deflection and subsequent four minute oscillation? How can the damage to the core be computed withou knowing the energy lost in the deflection? How can that be computed without knowing the distribution of mass?
The degreed EXPERTS seem to be not raising obvious issues for a NINE YEAR OLD event.
it is absolute folly to say either that the collapse as it happened is possible, or not.
Did you forget the 10+ floors above the impact zone that were intact? What happens when 10 intact floors move downward as one unit, when the damaged/destroyed sections give way to the damage and fires? What is going to stop the top floors from moving down?
Originally posted by psikeyhackr
Originally posted by neformore
Q - What is heavier - a tonne of feathers or a tonne of lead?
A - They both weigh a tonne.
But which would you rather have dropped from 200 feet directly above you?
The throttle is the big slider, the steering wheel is in front of your face. What's more to know?
Photography shows both wide spread fires and that demos could not have been used.
The internal structure collapsed, bringing down the penthouse, and without core support, the outer structure went down with it.
If there was demos used, you would see obliteration, not dragging.
But a unit error does not change the fact I am right on the momentum issue.
Why do you need navigation. Look out the window. Complicated approach? Not really. Pull down, keep level.
I'm interested in photos that disprove demo. Do you have a link?
How do you explain the massive accelerations of both the internal and external structure?
If demos were used I would expect it to look exactly how it did look.
I've gone back and reread the posts but I'm not sure what you mean in regards to the momentum issue. Could you please elaborate on it?
Let's say you have just hijacked a plane with your deadly box cutter. You are somewhere over a foreign countryside, you have a very rough idea where. You look out the window and see paddocks and possibly some unidentifiable highways. Which direction do you decide to head? You made no mention of the tight descending banking maneuvers. Pull down, keep level sounds so simple. Flying an aircraft of that size at less than 20ft over a distance of about a mile is anything but simple, especially for a pilot who was described as incompetent in a Cessna.
They weren't exactly massive. The internal structure lost its footing and began to fall. This is marked by the collapsing penthouse. a few seconds later, the rest falls like a house of cards. That's because there's nothing left inside to support it. It seemed hollow when it went down because it basically was. The outer structure therefore collapsed at a speed it should.
How could demos strong enough to bring down the building not reveal any sign of light nor explosive decompression? All we get are these rumored poofs that in no way could come from powerful explosives.
Heavy thing falls. Heavy thing puts more weight onto something due to the increased force due to velocity. Building is not designed to support a falling meteorite. Building fails.
As to finding out, you see the towers from many miles away. You don't exactly need navigations.
Not to mention they were here for 10 years. Kind of enough time to get ready and learn some maps. Maybe it was foreign to them for 2 years. But 10?