1200 Architects And Engineers

reply to post by GrinchNoMore


I'm really sorry to tell you this - and I know it sounds patronising - but, seriously, your reply indicates that you genuinely have no idea what you are talking about.

As for a tonne of steel and a tonne of feathers, if they are dropped on you in a contained mass, you will survive neither, because they both still weigh a tonne.

reply to post by oniongrass


Gorman is not an ATS Moderator.

That is quite obvious from the information presented around his avatar.

Originally posted by etcorngods
Both of the theories can't be true. They are so far apart. You can't be a good engineer and be so undecided!

OK. The rest of your off topic ramble aside, this point is junk.

I said I do not know, because no one knows

No one.

And because no one knows, both explanations are theories

Again - READ whats written.

Originally posted by neformore

Originally posted by etcorngods
Both of the theories can't be true. They are so far apart. You can't be a good engineer and be so undecided!

OK. The rest of your off topic ramble aside, this point is junk.

I said I do not know, because no one knows

No one.

And because no one knows, both explanations are theories

Again - READ whats written.

I said I know, and said why. You said you don't know but say "Either theory could be true". I don’t agree that no one knows. There has to be an explanation -- because 911 happened. No matter how unusual or uncomfortable the explanation is.

The enormous amount of controversy surronding 911 is typical of "Godly Happenings" (miracles).

Learn something from the websites that appear after my signature. What you learn might be the most important things you have ever learned.

Or perhaps you should present three theories: The OS, the Truthers, "Act of God"?



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Originally posted by neformore
I said I do not know, because no one knows

The people who were responsible certainly know, for one thing.

Just because you can't tell what happened doesn't mean no one else can either.

reply to post by VirginiaRisesYetAgain


True: Quoting from the favorate Radio program.

The Shadow Knows.

This whole things has elements of a perception / credibility test. I cannot separate perception from credibility, because if someone says something that is false, I cannot tell whether they do not know it's false (lack of perception) or are lying (lack of credibility.)

The official story of 9/11 is so hilarious it wouldn't make a good children's story.

Guys with boxcutters overpowered a whole 757 full of crew and passengers over Pennsylvania.

Guys went to a few lessons at a Florida flight school, flying Cessnas probably, and learned to do perfect pushing-the-envelope aerobatics in a 767.

Two buildings are pierced by aircraft impacts that they are built to withstand. A half hour or so later, they decide to fall down exactly as if they had been demolished by thermite charges.

Then a third building joins the fun and collapses in sympathy because, well, just because.

etc.

And we've all exposed ourselves as a certain sort of people, because we were unable to keep our mouths shut and protested the official story that was designed to elicit protests from a certain element of the public.

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reply to post by oniongrass


If it couldn't have happened, it is a "miracle" -- and an "Act of God".

Originally posted by etcorngods
reply to post by oniongrass

 

If it couldn't have happened, it is a "miracle" -- and an "Act of God".

But I think it could have happened. Just not in the way described in the official story. There are more credible stories out there, some described in this thread.

I didn't know about the sunspot the shape of Haiti, I should look into that.

Originally posted by NightVision
Here comes the wave of ATSr's who are smarter than 1200 Degreed Architects and Engineers. S&F.

That's because ATser's have more awareness/knowledge of truth and recognise lies and deceit that MSM and govt agenices are programmed to think.

We the people make our own decision's and choose what we want to believe and feel to be the truth.

1200 engineer's and architect's followed a curriculum and completed assignment's and test's to achieve a degree designed by a governing body to purposely make-believe the person holding that qualification that they are the puppet master's over us, wrong! They too have been lied too.

The difference between us and them, we can think for ourselves what is truth and not being told what is truth.


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reply to post by DClairvoyant


.... and you forgot to say the ATS guys are MODEST!! What BS.

reply to post by oniongrass


Look at the Haiti sunspot thread -- that should put the fear of God into you.

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A&E for 9/11 Truth performs credible and thorough investigations and analysis into the events ot 9/11. As a long-time "Truther" specializing in research, I respect their work.

The difference between "Truthers" and debunkers is that Truthers work at finding out what really happend on 9/11. The majority of debunkers only post objections and spew ridicule. Some debunkers provide well reasoned arguments, with solid research, supporting the OS (Official Story). My hat off to them -- I read what they present to better understand the argument and to ensure my research can stand up to their scrutiny. I respect the efforts they make to present their arguments and point of view. After all, I support Free Speech before my own idealogy.

My respects also to the many other Truthers out there. I don't agree with all of them, but often they are right when I've been wrong.

9/11 continues to reveal its mysteries -- and some of them are quite shocking. Stay tuned -- some revealations are about to be unveiled in the very near future.

Originally posted by neformore

Q - What is heavier - a tonne of feathers or a tonne of lead?
A - They both weigh a tonne.

But which would you rather have dropped from 200 feet directly above you?

psik

reply to post by DClairvoyant


Heh not only did they follow curricula, endlessly filled with weird math symbols and absurd things like massless pulleys and perfectly elastic collisions, isotropic media and limiting cases, and then they took tests, then they took licensing tests given by different people, and all they time they had to produce mostly right answers. Not only did they have to learn an orthodoxy, they had to be so imbued with it that they could apply it in the religiously correct doctrinal manner to new situations so as to produce results that agreed with experimental observations.

Oh those damned orthodox experiments! How many better worlds have been crushed by their experience!

But independent people aren't constrained by all that rigid orthodoxy. It's really too bad that they're not allowed to build their own houses, cars and airplanes (there are regulations and laws about that.) I wonder how those contraptions would perform!

reply to post by The Surgeon


Many are the same people -- you are kidding yourself, trying to make your "Church" better than the other guys "Church".

Some churches have better cars parked in front -- re Episcopal vs Baptist.

reply to post by The Surgeon

A&E for 9/11 Truth performs credible and thorough investigations and analysis into the events ot 9/11. As a long-time "Truther" specializing in research, I respect their work.

Huh????

What work? The NIST reports have been out there for YEARS and yet, to date, not one single thorough, point to point rebuttal. You would think by now there would be volumes of long well-written documents deconstructing those reports, what with all the "objections"! But no, nothing. Well, almost nothing. You got a couple of characters out there making bucks on the "lecture circuit" don't you think by now they would have held a convention somewhere, appointed some committees to look into different aspects, write some reports, liason with other organization like ASCE, ARA, ASME, etc. But nothing.

reply to post by hooper


Likewise, the "Truthers" and the ATS bunch have been nothing but WRONG, also.

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reply to post by hooper

What work? The NIST reports have been out there for YEARS and yet, to date, not one single thorough, point to point rebuttal.

You are wrong but what would one expect from people who refuses to read their rebuttals or any of their scientific reports, because one is in total denial and does not want to know the truth. If A&E had done no work they wouldn’t be around nor would their website.
You make assumptions about A&E work. I believe you do not understand the science and if their work was flawed you would have eagerly posted the proof.
NIST was proven a fraud by A&E read the reports.

reply to post by oniongrass


I am a Mechanical/Electrical Engineer by trade and a lot of the curriculum's over the 2-3 years are always being changed to different standards and what I was taught for my qualification's will be totally and completly different to another's understanding. I understand we were took on in number's for our course to make profit for the college's and a better name mean's better sponsorship from corporate businesses that take on apprenticeships, lie to them about what is truth and all that BS.

And then like you said people like myself have the skill's when ever there's regulations and law's to stop a tradesmen even take on a job of building their own house without being slapped charges this is, what you can do and this is what you can't do. If you do this without the consultation of a specialist who follow's procedures made up by governing bodies, you will always be slapped a heavy charge. Where ever there is profit these governing bodies bring in regulations so that they benefit more than us.

It takes the micky, I didn't go to college/uni for 6-10 year's to be told that I cannot profit the full amount of pay that I'm getting paid to do the job with my new learnt skills that these governing bodies have no skill or knowledge of.