Originally posted by VelvetSplash
"They realized that we are the most violent race in the universe that is on the verge of space travel. And they don't want us spreading our warlike, violent, greedy ways to other parts of the universe and disrupting the order of their societies on other planets. "

I wouldn't personally agree with that.

All our wars are brought about by those in financial and social power, not the common man.

the numbers may dissagree.

The regular folk don't have any beef with each other, the German people didn't have a problem with the English people, the Japanese with the Americans, the Iraqi's with the West.

correct me if you truly believe i am wrong, but they must have had a percieved beef with eachother in order for them to be willing to die (death) for a cause so great as to kill.

The only grudges and opinions of other nations the regular, working class people have are those instilled in us by our 'leaders' and the media.

whew, so that leaves more than 90% of the human race not responsible for the human race. glad i'm not a leader, or in the media. i'm off the hook!

If George Bush had a problem with Saddam Hussein, why didn't they just sit and talk about it, or get in a boxing ring and have a pay-per-view fight in Vegas?

because it was a war between common man, come on man.

I do not consider us a violent, warlike race, a gullable one maybe, but not warlike.

it would seem that 7,000 years of mankind not going one month without war or destruction or murder might be documented proof enough to at least provide you with enough cause to reconsider the above statement.

gullable, no
fearful, yes

Originally posted by kode
..... I can?t see it happening the free will of the people is to strong as to accept a society dictated to in the way described above.

"free will of the people is too strong as to accept a society dictated to ...."

very logical statement! i guess they would have to prove to such a society that free will throughout all written history has been an illusion, and a neccessary one to protect them from themselves.

..... they will need to do a lot more to our social conditioning [through brainwashing and suggestion] to be able to implement there strategy.

i have a smile on my face right now. perfect thought.

If they were to try it now I would expect they themselves would be shot dead on the spot if not blown up.

agreed. it would have been easier for them to start further back in time.

[edit on 16/6/05 by Esoteric Teacher]

[edit on 16/6/05 by Esoteric Teacher]

Originally posted by Majic
MAJESTYTWELVE was more believable, because it was professional disinformation, and a very successful program overall.

professional dissinformation must still be somehow connected to the truth and can be found if the truth is what you seek. besides, what's in a word?

To quote the memorable Verbal Kint: "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

Trust no one. Suspect everyone.

those statements are always worth repeating.

Originally posted by SHADOW266
Hey I've heard of this group...didn't they open for Van Halen?

Seriously though, Omega Group was used in the movie "True Lies"... could it be a consipracy to throw off the masses by fictionalizing the name Omega in a movie???

why not, after 911 the government openly proved they could manipulate hollywood by having them create more patriotic movies, of which the scripts were saved for a "rainy day".

Originally posted by Shadowtrooper90
To be honest, I think there's a greater chance of Dr. Evil taking over the world. This all sounds like MIB and Conspiracy (a History Channel show) put together. Besides, if it's so secret, then how will it have the force to take over the world...unless Yuri is going to appear and hypnotize everyone.

but if you are hypnotized from birth, would you really know it?

Originally posted by AboveTopSecret.com
George Bush himself is said
to have made the statement that he will personally tell of his involvement
in the running of drugs to finance the Vietnam war while he was
CIA director. To the OA way of thinking, the ends really do justify
the means, and in the case of the Vietnam war, the running of drugs
was necessary to finance the operation in that country.

Small problem there. George Bush was CIA director from 1976-1977; the Vietnam war ended in 1975.

I think it's fiction.

But I do believe that some of it comes from fact, such as that the world is roughly 60-70% under the control of a wealthy group these days and has been for a few years now...

Like # aliens? Cmon I have an open mind, but right now, we've got to remain realistic until there is EVIDENCE.

And there is none, only Star Trek and the occasionally documentary showing thrown frisbees and light reflections on TLC.

So yea, the "Omega Group" is based on fact, but overall is fiction. That's my conclusion, for now...

So, if you don't need to be on welfare, but you are, the NWO will do away with it? I have a job doing scientific work for a company that works for the government. Are you saying I get to keep my job?

I vote for the NWO! Count me in, sign me up. I'll be working on my MBA soon, so I can do well in a managerial administrative position. Maybe Vice President of Slavery Personnel. Do they have a President? Vice-President? Maybe it would be Vice Dictator-for-life of Slavery Personnel.

Just a question... will there be Soylent Green? I've always been a little curious about... well nevermind. Human meat better not be as gamey as my 187th degree Secret York Black Scottish Rite freemason friend says.

Will the NWO leadership provide training in virgin sacrifice? I really haven't studied it too much, and so I would need a refresher course. Maybe they have corporate flex-time so I can take time off to do the class.

I agree with MAJIC, just because the Illuminati supposedly doesn't exist, what better way to hide it's existance.

Odd that people in poverty and those in the third-world have little or no priroty with the OA.

" E.T's living and working among us "

sorry , but that sounds a bit david icke to me , and only exists in the realms of fantasy.

Okay I'm New Here. But I Have To Say Wow. Visitor's, Omega Agency, But One Thing Even If This Is True Which I Think It Is. How Can A Group A GROUP Of People Take Over The Planet There's What Some Where Maybe 10,000 to 100,000 People In The Omega Agency Maybe More. But How Can They Stop Of BILLION's How Of Other's? Mind Control Can Be Stopped If They Use It. No Matter How Much Technology Advance's They Will Never Be Able To Penatrate The Human Heart Or Spirit. They R Basically A Group Of People With A DREAM To Live In A World Which They Want. He Say's That It's Crime And Murder And The OA Want's It Stopped. Well Tell Me This Violence Is Nature In Every Species Human's, Animal's Bug's And Organism's. How Can It Be Stopped? Plus What About Religion? Huh What About Jesus, Satan, And God? If Satan Exists They Evil And Violence Does Too. Also Would God And Jesus Approve Of This? If We Follow Them We Could Be On The Way To Hell For All We Know. But Yes The OA Take Over Could Be A Advantage And A Disadvantage. They Want The Human Race To Live On. I Can Agree What's The Number One Priority Of Every Species? To Pass On Their DNA Think About It.
That's True. Plus Explore The Universe.We'd Be Able To See, Taste, And Feel Thing's That We Couldn't Comprehend In Thought. This Just WILD Between Religion, Secret Societies, Lost Citi's, Alien's, New World Order, Terrorism, Human Experiments, War, To Secret Military Technology. All I Have To Say Is
With This Many Possibilites How Will We Ever Know the Truth. Yes Some Of U Might Say Is Believe. Well I'm Tired Of Sittin Here On Faith And Belief. I Guess Will Just Have To Wait And See What Happen's. That Is The Only Easiest Most Effective Way To Find Out.

If the original thread post is accurate - I'm all in favor.

Originally posted by shirasiyu330
I think it's fiction.

But I do believe that some of it comes from fact, such as that the world is roughly 60-70% under the control of a wealthy group these days and has been for a few years now...

Like # aliens? Cmon I have an open mind, but right now, we've got to remain realistic until there is EVIDENCE.

And there is none, only Star Trek and the occasionally documentary showing thrown frisbees and light reflections on TLC.

So yea, the "Omega Group" is based on fact, but overall is fiction. That's my conclusion, for now...

60-70% control is enough. Hell, 20% control is enough if you're focused on the wealth/force of nations.

And if you grant that the controls are in place, why wouldn't you be surprised that hard evidence of UFOs is lacking. Maybe it just seems to be lacking. It's not hard to suppress evidence. i've mentioned before elsewhere here the stoies of the Tonkin Gulf Incident and the attack on the USS Liberty. neither of which are all that well concealed, but 99.9% of Americans (I call them Uh-mericans) don't know a thing about either. So what's really hard to imagine about concealing the moves behind the events?

Well positioned rulers needn't ever fear the sheeple.

Forget Illuminati,Bildebergs, Cfr,Cia,Nsa, if you' re really looking to find out who really is on top, google up ACIO and THE LABYRINTH GROUP you will find your answers or at least most of them concerning what is really going on even deeper than the most secret organizations would ever dream of.

It's an interesting article, but still fallible. I have confidence that the n.w.o. is already in power, but I have all the details, nor do I claim to. I can say, though, that it's certainly frightening to see how easily the ghosts of the government can puppeteer every aspect of life in America, and certain other countries.

If Mr."Aliens" is involved - in guiding any sort of Agency - to make peace on earth, Then it would only make sense - for what i have just read here. That they want to brainwash us until we figure out we are being brainwashed - by media and wars, and all that stupid crap we run around believing we do for a better, of our lands, and this planet.

Maybe it's the cycle of waking up a world - to make the world realize the truth. The truth being, that we are being manipulated.

Until we understand the dangers of being manipulated, world wide. They will continue to manipulate us - until we freaking stop it!!

That is the information i read here.

It's like - If we don't know we are being manipulated - then we are not ready to go out into space, and meet the other civilizations.

Infact it would make perfectly sense.!!!!

we could call it a "learning procces"

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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

but if you are hypnotized from birth, would you really know it?

We where not hypnotized from birth -

[edit on 2-7-2006 by Ram]

Whether you like it or not God, the all perceiving and benevolent creator of you and your perceptions, but giving you freewill, yes to a certain extent, where certain events are created and you are given freedom to show your real self so to speak is there. However, the usa lucifarian government is following orders by its master. Lucifer, God of light, deception. Those who are perceptive enough have experienced perceptual events that convey a message or meaning in the past.
However Lucifer does not have Gods powers of ultimately controlling humans minds in a positve way . Therefore he must do it in another way. The technology of the microchip is not only frightening, sinister and very real, but because satan is not as powerful as God since he was not the creator will use man to control man and kill man. Satan is using technology given by those higher than humans, impregnated, utilised into the minds that are in power to enslave . Why isn't God helping? Starvation, ample porn, the overfed and wasteful west, The pure curruption of man? It's the the most basic and most fundamental test of humans love for each other and other creatures.