Originally posted by ollncasino
I answered your original question with a “Yes”, the Ground Zero Imam does take a “take a radical interpretation of the Qur'an” and proved
I acknowledged what you said, said it was of great concern, and expressed my advocacy of greater transparency on his part, and for an investigation
into his activities, associations, and finances.
The Ground Zero Imam admires the "rejuvenating" Islamic religious spirit of Ibn Taymiyyah and al-Wahhab, both men who advocated violent Jihad
against non Muslims.
More than half a decade ago?
My, that was a long time ago.
There's no need for sarcasm. All I'm saying is that it wasn't yesterday. It isn't proof positive of what his intentions with this community center are
today. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that if his intentions are radical or of a nature that supports terror that that's acceptable to me. I'm
saying there needs to be an investigation seeking proof that those intentions are against the law. Criminal intent. Terrorist threats. Terror plots.
Terror funding. Aiding and sheltering terrorists. Something.
Does admiring the "rejuvenating" Islamic religious spirit of men who made violent jihad against non-Muslims a central aspect of their teachings count?
I've already addressed and acknowledged that and stated that it concerns me. It may or may not count, for that part of my question, as I said in my
previous post. But it counts as your answer, at least. I have acknowledged that, and am continuing to ask the rest of my question.
Please hear me out, here.
You keep implying that I'm ignoring aspects of your posts or "moving the goal posts." But why are you ignoring the rest
of my question? I've
asked it literally dozens of times now, and you have not answered the remainder of it.
There’s a reason I keep asking it, and it’s probably not what you think it is (though I don’t want to presume.) I’m asking it because I make a
distinction between what everyone is saying that this “mosque” is - a breeding ground for radicalism that poses a threat to the security of our
country and way of life - and what the Imam associated with it wrote years ago. Why? Because in America people are allowed to have opinions. Yes,
even radical ones. I don’t agree with them, but they have that right.
Unless they break any laws or hurt any people or property, we have to legally tolerate the existence of other groups which in the past have been
associated with killings and other violent acts, such as the KKK, the Aryan Brotherhood, Satanists, etc. What a Muslim cleric wrote in a book is not
exempt from those laws or from freedom of speech. We don’t have to like it or agree with it, and we can say so, but we do have to allow it to exist
under the law.
That is why I am asking for proof of something other than thoughts and ideas. Because those, as repugnant as one might find them, are not crimes in
America. So please, for the last time, answer my question:
Is there any proof of actual criminal misconduct, association with terror organizations, funding of terrorism or terror organizations, aiding and
abetting of terrorists or terrorism-related groups?
Yes or no? (And no, this rephrasing of my question is not me "moving the goal posts." It's for
purposes of clarity and precision.)
Please answer the question. Please don't reply again without answering this. Thank-you.
edit on 10/19/2010 by AceWombat04 because:
edit on 10/19/2010 by AceWombat04 because: Clarification