The Iranians are about to commit an "offense" far greater than Saddam Hussein's conversion to the euro of Iraq’s oil exports in the fall of
2000. Numerous articles have revealed Pentagon planning for operations against Iran as early as 2005. While the publicly stated reasons will be over
Iran's nuclear ambitions, there are unspoken macroeconomic drivers explaining the Real Reasons regarding the 2nd stage of petrodollar warfare -
Iran's upcoming euro-based oil Bourse.
Why would the US and PTB care? You see, the entire US consumer-based economy and strength of the dollar itself, relies heavily on the fact that the
USD is used to trade international commodities, particularly oil. This also allows the US and US based companies to manipulate the market.
In fact, in the fall of 2000, Iraq had converted over to the Euro for all of their oil
exports and arguably, this could have been the reason (or one of them, anyway) for the invasion that soon followed. What Iraq did against the USD is
not nearly as bad as what Iran is doing, from the perspective of the elites. Iraq simply slapped the dollar while Iran is trying to murder it.
Of course, the US is stating the case against Iran to be the country's nuclear program but most people who have researched the situation, realize
that Iran is pursuing a peaceful nuclear program. Some people may argue that Iran can easily turn its peaceful program into one in which weapons are
made, though such a conversion isn't easy at all.
Initially, Iran was enriching uranium to about 5%, then in February of this year, they
announced that they had enriched 17kg of uranium to 20%. While 17kg of 20% enriched
uranium sounds like a lot, it isn't anywhere close to the amount needed for a weapons program, nor is 20% enrichment even close to the purity level
(U235) needed for a weapon. For a nuclear weapon,
you need uranium enriched to at least 90% and for a weapons program, you need far more
uranium than 17kg. The process for enriching uranium to the grade needed for a nuclear explosive, is much more difficult than enriching it to the 20%
that they are currently doing.
Furthermore, Iran has been transparent and cooperative with the IAEA and this organization would know if Iran were trying to enrich their uranium to
the weapons grade of at least 90%. The sad fact of the matter is that the
US government and PTB know that Iran doesn't pose a direct
or imminent threat for their nuclear program. It simply serves as an excuse to dismantle their plans for trading oil in Euros as opposed to
We also have the MSM constantly vilifying the government of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as if he is some self appointed dictator, such as those that the
US likes to put in power and support. Not only do they vilify
the Iranian government, but they also like to put words in his mouth, particularly statements that he didn't make.
For instance, the MSM was/is saying that Ahmadinejad called for Israel to be wiped off the map, when he never said anything of the sort. What was
Farsi: "Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."
English: "The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".
Israel, wiped off, wipe out, map, world, Earth, face, are all words that were not used, nor did Ahmadinejad threaten Israel in anyway what-so-ever.
"The Western media talks of me saying I would like to destroy a nation off the map.But Israel has already destroyed a nation. It is called
This is only but one example of the spin and propaganda being
turned out by the American media, in an obvious effort to influence the American public's opinion of Iran and her democratically elected government.
Sort of the same way that they did it to Saddam Hussein before the invasion of Iraq.
In addition, we have what seems to be the CIA instigating civil unrest after the elections that kept Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as head of the Iranian
government. In fact, the protests in Tehran after the reelection of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, were much smaller than the protests after the election of
Bush, yet the MSM would have us believe that the entire country was up in arms over some corrupt election. The truth of the matter is that Iran
elected Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and unlike the US, Iran doesn't have unaccountable electronic voting machines, nor do they probably have dirty tactics to
cheat the electoral system, as we do.
The MSM also likes to refer to Iran's nuclear program as a "nuclear weapons program", implying that it is accepted that Iran has a nuclear weapons
program, when the IAEA has nothing to support such a claim. Don't hold your breath on the
MSM giving such a notion any attention. We all know that most people will never even attempt to fact check and so it is easy for the MSM to imply
certain things and the public will buy it.
So, we have the US government telling us over and over again that Iran is a threat and we have the MSM propagating lies and spin about the nation and
the American public is eating it up hook, line and sinker, without the slightest inkling to fact check what they are being told. In fact, many
Americans, if not most, falsely believe that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a dictator, as opposed to the democratically elected President.
When you think about Iran and TPTB's campaign to demonize the democratically elected government of Iran, it is more than clear that a huge bullseye
has been painted across their chest. Many people think it could be for the oil but the oil is already leaving Iran and although American companies
could get it much cheaper, it doesn't seem worth the effort and cost spent on manipulating public opinion. However, if the IOB is successful, it
could put an end to the USD as a standard for trading commodities and ultimately ending the supremacy of the USD around the globe. That, my friends
would seem well worth the effort spent on demonizing Iran and her government.
Iran is no where near obtaining Nuclear Weapons. I don't believe for a second, even without being under MAJOR watch, they are even within a decade of
making "the bomb" and having a means to get it flown into Israel/Europe/U.S.
Us Canadians should be the ones slipping out some material and making secret Nuclear Weapons... I mean, the U.S IS our neighbor. =)
We do have some within our borders, but they are American.
Good Canadian rye whisky has devastated far more Yamkee livers than any canadian nuke could ever accomplish, and made us a tidy profit too!
Its our secret weapon!
First we get em drunk and then......well.......heheheheh go Canada!
My bad....Awsome post there buddy......i have to agree with the reasoning but the waiting is the hardest part it seems...
I sometimes wish theyd just get it over with .....all this posturing, makes ,me want to puke.
Im getting older every day, and theres no end in sight...
and after Iran, then Venezuela you think?
S+F airspoon, and I'm glad to have you on my friends list!
Finally, someone who understands that this is about more than just oil! It's about currency, and always has been.
Scott Taylor, was a good friend of my mother, and when he got back from his
first trip to Iraq as a journalist, my parents had him over for dinner. I'd met him a few times before, and he was always a sharp,
conservative-leaning journalist. I liked him. Plus, he looked like Alec Baldwin, and I thought that was awesome.
But this time was different. I didn't understand everything he said at the time, but looking back I realize how on the mark he'd been back in 2003.
He talked about a lot of what the local Iraqi people had said they wanted, and how the TV news wasn't telling the real story of the occupation.
But more than anything he was insistent that the WMD story was a load of bull. He talked about how Iraq was trying to sell its oil in Euros, and how
the U.S. and other non-European importers (like China) had a vested interest in keeping the U.S. dollar high. The way he explained it made perfect
But at the time, I was still in support of the war, and very conservative myself; I was young... and this was back in 2003, a year before his
kidnapping by Ansar-al Islam, but even then I could sense a definite change in his attitude. At first I thought he'd just gone off the deep end. But
I did a lot of reading after that dinner, and found out about a lot of the macro-economic and strategic reasons for the war.
Suffice to say, his influence was part of the reason I eventually came to oppose the war in Iraq, and the whole War on Terror.
And it's good to hear someone else tell it in a well laid out and convincing way.
And the fact that Iran's latest reactor at Bushehr was allowed to be fueled by Russia without an American or Israeli attack only further supports the
notion that MSM is merely a propaganda tool for TPTB- and that there are other hidden reasons for the demonizing of Iran. Well, it's not a notion
anymore, it is the fricken truth. How many threads are there around here are there now that support this truth? TONS!
Israel would have attacked already if there really was a nuclear weapon threat to them from Iran. But the fact is, there is no nuclear weapon threat
It's funny to have been here all these years and watch so many people buy into the hype. I've done at least three threads on the issue, if not
We also had a big thread on the Iranian oil bourse some time ago here.
I always wondered about that! Something seemed fishy to me, but with so much geo-political "noise" out there, it's often hard to tell why anything
happens! This is an interesting connection you've made, and one well worth looking into I think!
That's a pretty good story. Do you have any of the details from what he told you?
If you think about it, most reporters must know what's going on, though because of the stigma and the need to put food in your mouth, they stay mum.
It's kind of aggravating, though in a weird way understandable at the same time. I believe your friend is critisized for his "opinions", though
I'm not familiar with him at all. Does he actually report on this kind of stuff?
I don't remember too many of the details - it was years ago, remember, and I was only 17.
I remember that at the time I thought China was going to be the next big enemy, and he explained how China and the U.S. were practically joined at the
hip, and how for the most part they were on the same page when it came to keeping commodities traded on the dollar. That seems to be changing now, at
least the rhetoric is, but back in 03 that was pretty spot-on.
The essence of what he said was that Iraq was just one more economic brush-fire that the Americans were trying to put out, and that the whole War on
Terror was just a way to secure strategic reserves and protect the dollar while keeping the people in a passable mood. He mentioned the 2002 coup
attempt in Venezuela as well, and said it was a part of the same thing. Not sure if he talked about the Color Revolutions as well, and the use of NGOs
as intelligence assets - that could be all me.
He's always been a bit of a renegade. I used to read his magazine, Esprit de Corps, and he was always looking into corruption within the top ranks
and wasted money and such. Investigating stuff for the boys, ye know? And hitting the top brass hard when they F'ed up. Not just spewing crap. We
always had a copy of Esprit de Corps in the junior ranks mess when I was a reservist, but I doubt if they kept one in the officers' mess. =P
Ya, he's always been opinionated. He's written several books. I have the two he did on Yugoslavia: "Unicivil War", and "Inat". He had a unique
perspective on everything, because he never went in embedded with the other correspondents - he always went independently. He'd just find a contact
through back-channels, and pave his own way. It got him snubbed by a lot of the big media outlets I'm sure, but it led to some great insight in my
He just wrote another book I think, but I haven't read it. He doesn't do interviews very often, but he's written a few newspaper pieces.
As for the "opinions" he's been criticized for. Well, that's mostly got to do with his opposition to NATO intervention in Kosovo. He exposed some
video manipulation on the part of NATO public relations, and other such stuff, and made himself a target. He's always been very pro-Serb since he
started reporting on Yugoslavia back in the early nineties. And as you probably well know, it wasn't exactly easy to be sympathetic to the Serbs in
the political climate back then. We had a lot of boys who did peacekeeping tours over there, and there were lots who would stand up for em, but what
with the anti-Serb media overload back then, soldiers didn't want to talk too loud when they talked about it. And there were always plenty of stories
from the other side.
Suffice to say, the guy's always been on the outside. He does his own research, and is a REAL journalist, not one of these million dollar hair-jobs
you get on the evening new. It's one of those unique cases though, where I've been able to meet the guy several times, face to face. So I don't
have to wonder about his credibility. The man's straight up. And I've got a finely-tuned BS detector. I always liked Taylor.
but Iran is not Irak
they know they can have enormous consequences if they start this new war
the part about what Amhadinejad said
i have been telling for a long time here that it was intentionaly misstranslated ..
he didnt tell to wipe Israel off the map ...like destroying it ...
i would of course disagree with that statement
lets add one word that the corrupted media removed
Israel REGIME needs to be wiped out
for that i agree 100%
While I fully agree with your presentation op, A+++ on getting the facts all together and putting it in plain english. One question has always eluded
me. How is it that in the 1940's we were able to construct an atomic weapon in only a matter of years yet it's been 60+ years and people refuse to
believe that some of these other bigger countries lack the ability to do as we did? I know the size of the operation the Manhatten Project and such
was performed but I still have to hold on to the opinion that we would be absolute fools to believe that other countries could not achieve what we did
so long ago, with much less technology. I live not far from where the silos were constructed to disguise some of the projects that went on in Western
New York state, and have spoken to many elders from the area that remember a time before my existance, and looking back on it we had some pretty crude
camo and ways to hide things. Now I know we have satellites in space that they didn't have and more technology to "see things" but now I'm just
rambling. Star & Flag for you.
Originally posted by Perseus Apex
The US dollar and the Euro are owned and managed by the same international bankster folk. I need look past the first paragraph. I choose not to read
further for regret of disgust.
Do you know what you say or are you told what to say?
There are only two choices.
Neither one has grace or worth.
[edit on 23-8-2010 by Perseus Apex]
While i'm totally against any military actions forwarded towards Iran , I agree with Perseus Apex regarding the dollar and the euro.
Like Iraq, when Bush after a couple of years of war was looking for weapons of mass destruction under his speech table , Iran's nuclear program is a
diversion and is not the real reason of any eventual conflict , but neither is the one presented in the first post. Just my opinion
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