posted on Aug, 23 2010 @ 07:01 AM
Originally posted by airspoon
reply to post by Perseus Apex
It doesn't matter who controls what currency. I too happen to believe that those who control the European currency, also control the US currency,
however the system of influence over the international commodities market is designed by the control of the USD.
This isn't about who controls the currency controls the market, you have to look at the larger picture here. It's not as if Europe would benefit
just because the commodities market converts to the Euro, as opposed to the dollar.
Again, the system of control over the world's commodity market has been designed around the USD and if that's replaced, it would shift control of
the world's commodities out of the hands of TPTB. Why do you think that Iran has made this move? It's not as if Iran like Europe any better than the
US. They did this to pry control away from the elites, in an effort to disperse control of the international oil market and the rest of the
commodities as a whole.
Currencies aren't independent.
Spot on, as was the OP brilliant yet again airspoon, Europe is not set up to have a petroeuro, we're set up to have a petro $, that was the deal, you
have the petro $ but you do all the police work, defence spending and R&D.
IIrc pres Carter firmed up the "International communities" determination to preserve this deal under the "Carter doctrine" back in the 70's this
committed the USA to war if under a financial attack using oil.
However the cosy set up designed to preserve western Anglo Saxon and European hegemony over the world, read capitalist white, is totally unfair to
practically everyone else in the world. The costs of preserving "our way of life" are proving almost as costly as a change would be. Imho manged
change is the only way forward to get this we're going to have to be prepared to treat China, Russia and OPEC as equals and accept a more fair
worldwide distribution of wealth. Ironically the huge unforeseen costs of the wars and occupations may bring New York and London to the table.
Iran is like Afghanistan and Iraq combined time three in terms of pop and terrain, literally a huge natural fortress, check out its topography, at
today's exchange rates imo it would cost close to 10 trillion to conquer and occupy this would likely destroy the US and EU certainly in terms of
what we would recognise and want to live in.
As the costs of the wars have diminished our lives already why add yet another even bigger war when managed change is available, after the costs of a
war with Iran are factored in I feel sure that managed change will be the route we go down. We may have even stated this managed change, Hillary's
announcement of a new structured dialogue between Israel and Palestine at the time when Israel had its last chance to bomb a none active nuke plant
was to me indicative of this mindset.
Excellent thread star and flag I recommend looking at Rob Newman's site full of v v good history and stuff about oil in an accessible manner, not bad
for a comedian. www.robnewman.com...
particularly the history of oil.
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