ADHD doesnt exist, page 1


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reply posted on 21-8-2010 @ 05:14 PM by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by Skyfloating



While I agree that psychiatic drugs (especially those for ADD/ADHD) are overprescribed, it is incredibly ignorant to use this as a basis to claim that the conditions simply don't exist. Though they are the minority of children on such drugs, there truly are children with ADD/ADHD. These can be socially and educationally crippling disorders when left untreated.

Using the logic you employed above, would you claim that staph infections don't exist due to antibiotics being overprescribed? What about urinary tract infections? Those are often treated prophylactically.

To see this sort of poor logic coming from a moderator is a bit troubling, to say the least.

[edit on 8/21/2010 by VneZonyDostupa]


reply posted on 21-8-2010 @ 05:20 PM by unityemissions
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa



Woa, I actually fully agree with you!



OP is using faulty logic. Not only has the personality type for adhd/add existed probably since the beginning of man, it seems to be rapidly increasing. IMHO, this is a result of genetic susceptibilities and environmental exposures to a variety of synthetic chemicals and heavy metals over the time period of the developing psyche. I saw a study that linked adhd to preservatives and artificial colors/sweeteners. Once they were removed from the diet, the kids symptoms greatly diminished.

ADHD is surely real, but the falsehood lies in saying it's only treatable by pharmaceuticals, and that the diet isn't a major influence on these particular genetic expressions.



reply posted on 21-8-2010 @ 05:26 PM by LadySkadi
reply to post by Skyfloating



Im not using overprescription as the basis for the claim that ADHD doesnt exist. My basis for saying ADHD doesnt exist is that being active and playful and not paying attention to a teachers monologue for hours is not a mental illness to me.


That is not the basis for determining ADD or ADHD diagnosis and to dumb it down to this is a huge disservice to the topic. I'm also very disappointed in the "research" that did or did not go into this thread.

[edit on 21-8-2010 by LadySkadi]


reply posted on 21-8-2010 @ 05:29 PM by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by Skyfloating



Skyfloating.....

It's always a great pleasure to see you in the Medical Forum!

On the one hand.....

I don't agree with you when you state that ADHD "doesn't exist".

On the other hand.....

I believe ADHD is massively over-diagnosed & often used as an excuse for poor parenting of children.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


[edit on 21-8-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]


reply posted on 21-8-2010 @ 05:31 PM by whaaa
reply to post by Skyfloating



Like everything it's a matter of degrees. As a onetime teacher, I have seen kids that can't concentrate on a task and are not a discipline problem or rambunctious. They were just zoned out.

What do you suggest; Let them stay in the Fog and not learn when they could be helped.

However I do agree that Ritalin is over prescribed but I also have seen it turn a kid that would have been diagnosed as retarded into a scholar.



[edit on 21-8-2010 by whaaa]


reply posted on 21-8-2010 @ 05:33 PM by Skyfloating
reply to post by kosmicjack



Tell me about it. I was disciplined for being too imaginative, disciplined for being too active, disciplined for being too self-determined, disciplined for laughing, disciplined for loving...if I were in school today Id be one of the "mentally ill" ones.



reply posted on 21-8-2010 @ 05:37 PM by unityemissions
Originally posted by whaaa
reply to
post by Skyfloating



Like everything it's a matter of degrees. As a onetime teacher, I have seen kids that can't concentrate on a task and are not a discipline problem or rambunctious. They were just zoned out.

What do you suggest; Let them stay in the Fog and not learn when they could be helped.



Well, in defense of some of the kids who zoned out, a lot of times these children have learning disorders, and may also be right-brained and/or gifted.

I have central auditory processing disorder, was right-brained, and academically beyond the class. I would zone-out because the material was lame, and it was much more beneficial to my educational experience to day-dream and create my own internal systems of figuring out the world.

Some of those that zone out aren't --duh-- they can also be the very bright.

I wasn't really adhd, though, I had a creative personality that switched back and forth between hyper-focus when interested in the material, to internally self-learning when not challenged.

Schools suck these days.
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