Are you ready for a world without antibiotics?, page 2


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reply posted on 25-9-2010 @ 11:10 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by pexx421





Actually bacteria and viruses mutate extremely fast which is why we have new flu strains each year.

I am fortunate in that I have never had the flu and have never had a flu shot, and never will. Many people I know who haven't gotten these shots got flu from the shot. My father got a bad case of flu from a flu shot years ago and almost died, he had not had one since and he is ninety years old now and hasn't had flu since, and does not take any kind of medication.


reply posted on 25-9-2010 @ 11:14 PM by thegoodearth
reply to post by pexx421



Actually, viruses mutate very fast because of their nature, make-up and composition.
Bacteris do not mutate at anywhere the same rate as a virus. If so, we would be doomed long ago.
Antibiotics only work on bacteria, not viruses.
That is why we currently have no cure for any viral disease. Because they mutate so quickly.


reply posted on 25-9-2010 @ 11:42 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by thegoodearth



thegoodearth are you in the medical field? If so in what capacity, you are very knowledgeable it seems. I am also in the heathcare field, or should say I was, am now retired.



reply posted on 26-9-2010 @ 10:12 AM by Aquarius1
reply to post by Idotwhat





When I was young I got sick alot and in the 2nd grade I had my tonsils and adnoids removed from then on I started to get sick less and now i get the sniffles maybe every 2 years or so. So that could have had something to do with it.


Interesting you should mention getting your tonsils and adenoids removed. In the seventies my son and daughter were constantly getting throat and ear infections, tubes in the ears etc. in those days they were not taking out tonsils and adenoids, it took some but I finally found a doctor who would, the throat and ears infections stopped immediately after that and never came back. I am not an advocate for surgery but some cases where they have become infected this may be the only solution.

Thanks for posting.


reply posted on 26-9-2010 @ 11:31 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by skyvia



Antiphlogistic Formula is a Chinese herbal formula used for acute inflammation of the throat, swollen glands, fever, and systemic infections including chronic viral disorders. Antiphlogistic Formula is also beneficial for cough with yellow phlegm, bronchitis and other upper respiratory infections.

www.holisticchineseherbs.com...


Since this isn't an antibiotic but a herbal formula I don't think it will be going away any time soon. If this works as well as antibiotics that is what I would take before any drug. What has your experience been with antiphlogistics?


reply posted on 27-9-2010 @ 01:20 AM by thegoodearth
reply to post by Aquarius1



Yes I was for a long time.
Grew a lot of bacteria in college too... the experiments where we took swabs from the drinking fountains, and on top of toilet seats always grossed people out so badly that they never used them again after the results were posted. HAhahaha..
Now am at home, writing and also doing some other things.


reply posted on 17-4-2011 @ 01:53 PM by starwisdom
reply to post by speculativeoptimist



Yes, honey, honey and more honey, honey. It is truly a wonder substance and you don't have to buy New Zealand honey - find a local beekeeper and slather it on, internally and externally. Local honey will boost your immune system far more than imports from foreign environments. Local allergies are best treated with local products. And, local honey is sustainable and green - the carbon footprint in importing that NZ honey is very high and not necessary. Keep your locals employed.

Honey has phenomenal antimicrobial and antifungal properties. Studies of beekeepers (I mean the old guys who've been beekeeping for decades) have shown that this population has very low incidences of cancer, asthma, arthritis, colds and flu. Apitherapy (bee sting therapy) is also being used for treatment of lyme's disease with anecdotal success. It is, as this Poster notes, excellent for treating burns and wounds with quite amazingly fast healing.

Also eat propolis and royal jelly (the queen bees are fed a diet of royal jelly and I eat anything a queen eats). Great energy boosters - I used to down large quantities during my martial arts days.

For those interested in the more vain pursuits, try it as a facial at home. Clean skin thoroughly (I use plain old green bentonite clay {for external use only} with organic apple cider vinegar - that's a whole other wonder medicine from nature), rinse with water and then witch hazel. Then, take your fabulous honey, smear it all over your face and neck and apply a moist, warm cloth (aids in penetration of antioxidants and such into the skin) and relax, preferably in a nice hot epsom salt and organic sea salt bath. Afterward, accept the compliments on your fabulously youthful, vibrant skin.

It is important to buy honey that has the word RAW on the label. There's no such thing as organic (bees fly all over the place and one cannot regulate where they get their pollen from). A lot of manufacturers take some honey, mix it with very bad sugars and sell it to you as organic or natural. NO!!!! China does this. Their honey imports have been banned in the US, so, what they do is they sell it to mexico, who then sells this stuff across the border. The only word to trust is RAW - and if it's not on the label, don't buy it.

Hospitals and doctor's offices are places of disease. I lost my mother to VRE (vancomycin resistant enterococcus) over 10 years ago - and she got that disease FROM the hospital environment. This, unfortunately, is becoming an all-too-familiar story for many people. Prevention is FAR less expensive than all the garbage big pharma wants to put into you and do to you after your immune system is so compromised you get sick (at their hands, no less)

On a literary note, I highly recommend the book, "The Secret Life of Bees." Wonderful homage to a life led with bees and their products as the focal point of community, ritual, health and relationship.

All the best to you in your healing.



reply posted on 13-4-2012 @ 10:32 AM by Advantage
Originally posted by Aquarius1
reply to
post by Idotwhat





When I was young I got sick alot and in the 2nd grade I had my tonsils and adnoids removed from then on I started to get sick less and now i get the sniffles maybe every 2 years or so. So that could have had something to do with it.


Interesting you should mention getting your tonsils and adenoids removed. In the seventies my son and daughter were constantly getting throat and ear infections, tubes in the ears etc. in those days they were not taking out tonsils and adenoids, it took some but I finally found a doctor who would, the throat and ears infections stopped immediately after that and never came back. I am not an advocate for surgery but some cases where they have become infected this may be the only solution.

Thanks for posting.


I want my tonsils removed asap. LOL! Im in my 40's and Im sick of having them. Mine are huge. I hardly ever get sick as in throat or ear things, but theyre monsters and IF I get a sore throat, eating is impossible.
I didnt have mine removed because culturally, we just didnt go to Drs for things. My parents never went and I was hardly ever taken. I got the usual immunizations ( the ol round scar on the shoulder type) but that was for school. With my own kids ( except the transplant recipient who lives at the Dr) I hardly ever take them to the Dr and they are hardly ever sick. Ive been criticized by friends and my husbands family for not having taken one of the kids here or there when they had a bug, but their bodies fought things off and they are fine in the end.I mean I dont take chances with them.. but run to the pediatrician for EVERY sniffle and puke session is ridiculous! They havent been antibiotic-ed to death.
Just as habit, I do a lot of things my parents did.. just as having grown up that way.. and I think its better IMO. An example..We dont "drink milk".. the kids never had ear infections, sinus issues, stomach problems.. all of that.My dad woudl say that milk was for baby cows, not humans to drink. I say that now PLUS its all pus and antibiotics.. YECH!! LOL! He drank buttermilk "medicinally" at times and we cooked with it, but it just wasnt a beverage. IMO again, I think the modern American cultural way of life is killing folks off and making kids sick. So many things I have noticed that other kids and their families do and did that mine didnt.. the kids would mention it and wonder why we didnt.


reply posted on 13-4-2012 @ 11:12 AM by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by Jomina



Amen, and well said.

I suspect also that the singularity will arrive and we will successfully merge with nano-machines, rendering the concept of disease extinct through the indiscriminate use of pro-virii. Sadly, the "anti-bacterial" crowd will not survive the transition, having no viable immune system for the nano's to replicate.


reply posted on 18-4-2012 @ 05:07 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by Advantage



My ex had his tonsils out when he was in his forties, more pain then a child would get but in his case it stopped the throat infections he used to get frequently.

Good luck if you decide to do it.
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