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Russian Scholar Warns Of US Climate Change Weapon

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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 10:46 AM
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Russian Scholar Warns Of US Climate Change Weapon


science.slashdot.org

"... Areshev voiced suspicions about the High-Frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP), funded by the US Defense Department and the University of Alaska. HAARP, which has long been the target of conspiracy theorists, analyzes the ionosphere and seeks to develop technologies to improve radio communications, surveillance, and missile detection. Areshev writes, however, that its true aim is to create new weapons of mass destruction 'in order to destabilize environmental and agricultural systems in local countries.'"
(visit the link for the full news article)


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posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 10:47 AM
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Found this story on Slashdot of all places, was pretty surprised to see them covering something that has been part of the conspiracy mainstream for so long.

Of course we know that weather modification technology exists, but is their really any truth behind the idea that HAARP was created as a weapon for just that purpose ? It is certainly starting to look that way.

science.slashdot.org
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 11:18 AM
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Since you posted the same thread twice, I'll post the same response twice:


Should Russia be scared of Haarp ?


No one should be afraid of HAARP, much less an entire country. I can't believe people still think this thing is a weapon.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 11:28 AM
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______beforeitsnews/story/20/951/Are_We_in_a_HAARP_Earthquake_War.html

"So, HAARP takes huge amounts of energy directed at our ionosphere and bounces it back to earth. This disrupts the magnetic field and can cause a massive earthquake, like we just saw today in Chile. By the way, many of the recent earthquakes were preceded by colorful disruptions in the atmosphere characteristic of HAARP. "

The above is a snippet from the article, go there and watch the videos. The one with the sound frequency explanation might change your mind on whether haarp is indeed a weapon. In fact in patents for the pentagon if im not mistaken, it states uses for weather modification and other interesting uses.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 11:38 AM
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Uhm, but didn't Russia once (still does) have a radio station and program very similar to HAARP...and that's actually why the HAARP conspiracy theory exists...because of the lack of rain on the west coast when the Russian station was turned on?



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 11:51 AM
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Yes, they do. As do the Chinese.

en.wikipedia.org...


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general comment

I truly wonder why slashdot would post such garbage. There's not even an argument presented.

I mean.. "Russian Scholar"? "Political Scientist" ... Hello?

Why do HAARP-conspiracists consistently cite "scholars" or "researchers" implying that they would have technical knowledge of HAARPS capabilities who turn out to be people with some ordinary or obscure degree in polisci or philosophy or something like that?

" Hey Sergej, guess what my recent research in the field of Political Science just proved? Uhm.. I don't know, that Putin is a criminal? No, not at all. I've made the stunning discovery that all our problems are caused by the Americans by a facility that is widely publicized and regularly holds open-door days..."

Yeah, I can definitely see how a Political Scientist would be professionally involved with such questions.. LOL... Another failed argument from authority from the HAARP-is-eevil crowd.

As far as the true purpose of HAARP and its true capabilities are concerned, all you need to know can be found in this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 18-8-2010 by NichirasuKenshin]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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I really can't get my head round why people have so much trouble believing in the HAARP "conspiracy". I really don't think its that difficult, Nicola Tesla talked about doing it 80+ years ago, imagine what you could do with billions of dollars at your disposal and a clandestine element to government! and this-

In 1997 the U.S. government actually confirmed the use of "electromagnetic weapons" to stimulate volcanoes into eruption, control the weather, and induce earthquakes. One can easily observe and photograph the ongoing weather engineering all over the U.S., and particularly here in Huntsville , and we have published such results for decades . Here's a statement by Secretary Cohen (then U.S. Secretary of Defense) 1997 on the subject, in a direct quotation:


"Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves… So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations…It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important."

[Secretary of Defense William Cohen at an April 1997 counterterrorism conference sponsored by former Senator Sam Nunn. Quoted from DoD News Briefing, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia, Athens, Apr. 28, 1997].



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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I wonder why you didn't give the full quote...?




www.defense.gov...

Let me ask you specifically about last week's scare here in Washington, and what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with that (inaudible), at B'nai Brith.

A: Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances. But as we've learned in the intelligence community, we had something called -- and we have James Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom moles. The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search. The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one. There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important.



Now. Have you ever wondered who Alvin Toffler is? What is his profession - is it expert on undisclosed eco-weapons or Futurologist?
Is it so unconventional that a Futurologist would talk about non-existent, yet to be developed threats (such as climatic warfare)?

Also note that Cohen is clearly answering a question about false threats and then goes over to discussing Toffler. It's clearly unknown-unknown's territory he's referring to, and not actual weapons that he has witnesses in his capacity as Secretary of Defense.

[edit on 18-8-2010 by NichirasuKenshin]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by trutherman
"By the way, many of the recent earthquakes were preceded by colorful disruptions in the atmosphere characteristic of HAARP. "


No article that makes such an idiotic statement is worthy of reading or taking seriously. Those colorful lights have been observed and reported before earthquakes almost as long as earthquakes themselves have been reported.

They are called earthquake lights, they are a natural phenomenon, and if you attempt to use them as evidence of HAARP weather modification than you are either a fool or a liar.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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interpret things how you want dude, with or with out that quote my mind is still made up, i still think the same. that manipulating the weather is no big deal if you have the money and brains to throw at it.

everything is energy, everything can be manipulated by energy in some way, if you can figure out how. its not rocket science.

this was from a mainstream tv documentary screened not long after the attack on haiti. the geologist expert talks about haiti being "zapped", now correct me if i'm wrong but i'm sure zapped isn't a commonly used geological term, the programme wasn't live, they could have re-shot the scene and made it sound more professional.- www.youtube.com...

if you think this type of technology is far fetched i think your brain would melt if you ever discovered what technology we really had or the ideas they're working on at the mo!!

remember we've been kept in a naive and silly little world for a reason!!



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by mattifikation

Originally posted by trutherman
"By the way, many of the recent earthquakes were preceded by colorful disruptions in the atmosphere characteristic of HAARP. "


They are called earthquake lights, they are a natural phenomenon, and if you attempt to use them as evidence of HAARP weather modification than you are either a fool or a liar.


Wrong they are not a natural phenomenon. The lights occur around the time of earthquakes sometimes but they occur at other times too and are connected to radiant white mother ships and behave intelligently and can communicate and organise themselves into amazing symmetrical patterns.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 01:32 PM
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HAARP doesn't generate even a miniscule fraction of the energy that comes from the sun. So to suggest that a bunch of metal poles sticking out of the ground holds much more sway over the climate than the nearby STAR that produces all the life-giving energy for this planet...

Give me a break.

Anyone who buys this crap, try to get your focus off the politics of this fake money-making global warming racket.

The SUN causes climate change. Nothing else. Not Al "Happy Ending" Gore and all his 'carbon', not pollution, not aliens, not government projects.






[edit on 18-8-2010 by AwakeinNM]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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I had been wondering on this the other day and created a thread on such a weapon here in light of the Pakistan floods and Russian fires.

Really does make you wonder when you see threads such as this one we are discussing here.

Although I didn't point towards any particulr possible weapon, I'm still kinda curious as to exactly what is going on.

Just as an example, the Russian fires could be used as an excuse to promote further this so called global warming..

But why? Apart from the obvious effect of costing countries billions in clean ups and fixes, why would you want a certain group of climate 'scientists' to make more money from climate change? Unless they are funding other stuff behind the scenes..



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 01:56 PM
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Here are some quotes from the OPs source.


"First of all, I would like to say that what I wrote in that article, even the citations, does not in any way claim to a be final truth. It is, if you will, speculation, in other words, the definition of an hypothesis," Areshev said.

Pure speculation with no proof at all.


"My comments were not made in order to accuse the U.S., or any other country, of consciously influencing Russia," Areshev said. "That would be quite ridiculous."

Ridiculous indeed..


Maybe this guy is a frequent ATS reader.
www.rferl.org...

Edit to add source of quotes.


[edit on 8/18/2010 by Erasurehead]



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 03:32 PM
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Oh yea...
It took all these months to plug a 2ft oil well hole in the ocean, yet we are supposed to have the technology that can stimulate volcanoes into eruption, control the weather, and induce earthquakes.

Light up another one.



posted on Aug, 18 2010 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by ufoorbhunter

Originally posted by mattifikation

Originally posted by trutherman
"By the way, many of the recent earthquakes were preceded by colorful disruptions in the atmosphere characteristic of HAARP. "


They are called earthquake lights, they are a natural phenomenon, and if you attempt to use them as evidence of HAARP weather modification than you are either a fool or a liar.


Wrong they are not a natural phenomenon. The lights occur around the time of earthquakes sometimes but they occur at other times too and are connected to radiant white mother ships and behave intelligently and can communicate and organise themselves into amazing symmetrical patterns.


Radiant white mother ships?
Lay off the friggin kool-aid, dude.

geology.about.com...



Until recently, earthquake lights were folklore. For centuries people have reported rare flashes, glows and various fireworks associated with large earthquakes, but science can't do much with eyewitness stories. (Indeed, some argue that they may be hallucinations.) After lights were photographed in Japan during a month-long earthquake swarm in the mid-1960s, and other careful observations were made elsewhere in the world, earthquake specialists had something to chew on.
Characteristics of Earthquake Lights

Earthquake lights occur before, during and after earthquakes. They are cool and quiet, colored white or blue or red. They are usually dim, but sometimes are brighter than moonlight.

They take various forms: globes, bands, rays, sheets, clouds. They tend to rise from the ground. They have been reported at sea. They may flicker or shine steadily. They may be silent or accompanied by a crackling or bristling sound. Sometimes light boils from the ground like flames. They may be as brief as lightning or glow for several minutes.


The article goes on to talk about a lot more.

Do a Google search and learn the reality of what earthquake lights are, if you care about things such as "demonstrable facts" and "reality."



posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 12:52 AM
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You know many other countries have these HAARPS also but this one specifically is 100 times more powerful I would figure anything that is detrimental to our whole as a species as a planet as life would be taken out by now but looks like they can play with our ionosphear ( the big shield around our plant that protects us from a microwave) and push it in an out and bounce high voltage freaquencies into
here are just some of the patents for its use read them and tell me they are using it for safe testing only.


HAARP PATENTS (Assigned to APTI, Inc.)

U.S. Patent 4817495:
Defense System For Discriminating Between Objects In Space

U.S. Patent 4873928:
Nuclear-Sized Explosions Without Radiation

U.S. Patent 4954709:
High Resolution Directional Gamma Ray Detector
U.S. Patent 4712155:
Method And Apparatus For Creating An Artificial Electron Cyclotron
Heating Region Of Plasma

U.S. Patent 5068669:
Power Beaming System

U.S. Patent 5218374:
Power Beaming System With Printer Circuit Radiating Elements
Having Resonating Cavities

U.S. Patent 5293176:
Folded Cross Grid Dipole Antenna Element

U.S. Patent 5202689:
Lightweight Focusing Reflector For Space

U.S. Patent 5041834:
Artificial Ionospheric Mirror Composed Of A Plasma Layer
Which Can Be Tilted

U.S. Patent 4999637:
Creation Of Artificial Ionization Clouds Above The Earth


Source: More detailed info on HAARP can be found here

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posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 12:57 AM
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I guess you never really read what HAARP is capable of doing I think you shoudl watch some you tube videos my friend.



Several researchers have already noted major adverse effects that have occurred in Alaska since the beginning of the HAARP experimentation program, and they point to HAARP as the only cause (Begich and Manning, 1995).

Researchers have estimated that such radiations will be similar to those found under power-lines, and much more severe, as the frequency will be more attuned to life functions and brain waves. One researcher is quoted as saying that insects and other life forms that depend upon using their antenna will be affected world-wide!

In addition, several other researchers have pointed out that in the future operational phases of the program, EMF waves will be produced within the atmosphere that are in the same frequency band as human brain waves. Our conscious and unconscious activities have been found to be controlled by brain waves in the range from 1 to about 35 Hz. Our conscious activity is regulated by brain waves in the 14-35 Hz range (Beta). Our unconscious and higher conscious activity is in the range of 8-14 Hz (Alpha). Our relaxed and deeply relaxed states are in the ranges of 4-8 Hz (Theta) and 1-4 Hz (Delta) (Hurtak, J., 1997). As the frequency decreases, the effect is more pronounced and more unconscious. The effect of large power EM radiations pulsing though the atmosphere on living creatures and human consciousness in these frequency ranges is completely unknown!
source

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posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 01:01 AM
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I just don't get this , please help ....

Is there no way using numbers and some cool equation to tell , buy the math and science , what exactly happens when something like HAARP is turned on ?

We know enough about radio / energy and we also know a lot about the Earths atmosphere and magnetic field to tell mathematically what happens when something like HAARP is used , no?



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posted on Aug, 19 2010 @ 01:04 AM
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it means insects will be confused they use their antennas and freqencies to navigate and live most of them pollinate our planet haarp will effect all living creatures on the planet and never mind the bugs we as humans have certain brain waves and as stated below from some smarter person than I.


Our conscious and unconscious activities have been found to be controlled by brain waves in the range from 1 to about 35 Hz. Our conscious activity is regulated by brain waves in the 14-35 Hz range (Beta). Our unconscious and higher conscious activity is in the range of 8-14 Hz (Alpha). Our relaxed and deeply relaxed states are in the ranges of 4-8 Hz (Theta) and 1-4 Hz (Delta) (Hurtak, J., 1997). As the frequency decreases, the effect is more pronounced and more unconscious. The effect of large power EM radiations pulsing though the atmosphere on living creatures and human consciousness in these frequency ranges is completely unknown!
source

sounds bad to me
living binural beats coming from our controllers how sweet it is...

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