Kelly had heart attack, says pathologist

Kelly had heart attack, says pathologist

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A retired pathologist cast further doubt yesterday on the circumstances surrounding the death of Dr David Kelly, the government weapons inspector said to have committed suicide in 2003. She also criticised Lord Hutton's handling of the inquiry into his death. Dr Jennifer Dyson joined other experts questioning the official finding that Kelly bled to death. She argued it was more likely that the 59-year-old scientist suffered a heart attack due to the stress he had been placed under.

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Of course he wasn't murdered, it was a simple suicide by heart attack.

We all know the suspicions surrounding his death, like why a doctor for example would cut his wrists across the wrist, instead of down the arm. Makes for a very slow and painful death but I'm no doctor.

"Insufficient blood would have been lost to threaten life," they wrote. "Absent a quantitative assessment of the blood lost and of the blood remaining in the great vessels, the conclusion that death occurred as a consequence of hemorrhage is unsafe."

Lets face it the whole story is full of holes. It is unfortunate that Dr Jennifer Dyson the pathologist named in the article, questioned the death but did not go as far to say it may have been murder. Perhaps she is afraid of something?...

Then again she is in a much better position to judge the situation than myself.

Still we are seeing more and more prominent Conservative party members asking for a proper inquest into the death. This coupled with a growing number of physicians could see the Dr. David Kelly story finally laid to rest.

However I am not getting my hopes up just yet.

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reply to post by Big Raging Loner


No probs, TPTB will just twist the story to show he had a heart attack, died, and then slit his own wrist

And the sheeple will believe..

Like that miracle bullet in the JFK assasination..

reply to post by CynicalM


I keep thinking about his wife and children. What type of pressure is put on the family, surely they must have questions? How do you go about shutting up the family?

reply to post by Big Raging Loner
This is one of the reasons I hate politics so much. There's are genuine questions hanging above his death. Serious people don't accept the evidence. Some fairly reputable journalists provide a number of reasons to suspect foul play. The Hutton Inquiry decision to lock away the files until all parties are deceased (70 years) is a clear indicator that high-level people want it buried.

The implication is foul play and probable murder/assassination.

Despite the choir of voices asking for more information and the allegations being substantial...nothing will come of it. Everything around the war in Iraq stinks. Through collusion, complicity and guilt by association, we'll never know anything more than we do now. Nobody will face charges and no leaks will be forthcoming. The ones making all the profit (political or financial) will carry on and there's nothing we can do about it.

I'm hoping the new Coalition Government does put more pressure on and open up an enquiry BUT then where does that go ??

I say this because the doubt here is that the previous Government 'sanctioned' this to protect their decision to go to war ?? Or did they because maybe the security services are really behind this and were covering themselves without the previous Government knowing?

But then who controls OUR security services ??

The rabbit hole here goes on and on i fear and I just don't think we, as the public would ever really find out the truth because it MIGHT undermine our foundations....

As mentioned, his Family must be distraught but also I bet they are reminded to be quiet or lose what they currently have (housing, monies, lifestyle etc etc)

Regards

PurpleDOG UK

The biggest mistake people make is judging the actions Governments by the same common sense measure as the actions of general everyday people.

Governments do not act within ANY boundaries, rules or protocols. They have 'that which needs to be achieved' and they will act to achieve it. NOTHING gets in the way. Information is managed and delivered to keep the populous believe that they do act within the boundaries of acceptability. The act within NO BOUNDRIES. The goal must be achieved by any means.

Dr. Kelly is an example to all who deviate from supporting the common purpose of the governments goal/aims.

Governments are the public relations arm of those that rule; our owners. The idiot populous still believes that 'they' are there to serve. They are not. They are there to MANAGE and carry the public opinion. They are there to get support for their actions by means of a soap opera, a fairy tail narrative of lies that they portray as true events. This is their primary role. They would say: "If the people do not support the war, then maybe they need to 'understand' who the enemy really is. How best can we illustrate who the enemy is? How can we show the people who the enemy is?".

I sometimes believe that we, the general population deserve all that we get for allowing them to do this.

The best part is, they will all vote for 'change' in November.



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reply to post by Big Raging Loner


I thought the results of the autopsy had been sealed for many years (something like 50?). Did this change?

reply to post by woodwardjnr


You probably dont need to..
If they know more than us then they probably are scared to talk..

reply to post by woodwardjnr


I wouldn't even like to know tbh. I'm sure they have folks who specialise in that type of delicate situation. I'm sure threatening families takes a special sort of person.

Iamonlyhuman I believe that is the case. However this would be for the original autopsy only. So there is 'nothing' theoretically to stop an independent enquiry. You have to ask the question why 50 years?

I think the new coalition government is in the process of, "look at the mess the last guys left." They can distance themselves from it, and condemn it publicly, which alleviates some of the pressure in releasing sensitive documents. Because this government is on our side...

The best part is, they will all vote for 'change' in November.

So very true, and the futile perpetual motion continues

For anyone keeping track of the thread take a look at this article post on the truthseeker today.

kevboyle.blogspot.com...

As the pressure for a proper inquest grows (an inquest that is likely to conclude that the Hutton narrative regarding Kelly's death is almost certainly false) is a loophole being created to direct probable blame for Dr. Kelly's death towards Iraqi agents?

We must ask this question holding the certain knowledge that any government-initiated official inquest most certainly will not find that Dr. Kelly's assassins were agents of that same government (or agents of an allied government, which would amount to the same thing).

Lets start with the obvious...it is actually impossible to slash your wrists and kill yourself...unless you suffer from hemophilia.

The blood clots and congeals...this is why we have five independant doctors calling for an enquiry...because they know this is impossible! Hell even any nurse worth her salt would know this.

Still this is another tip of the iceberg thing, micro-biologists have been killing themselves alot over the last few years...how many is it now?

Just found this which might be worth a perousal....

Rense article

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He had a heart attack, causing him to cut his wrist?