Originally posted by Blaine91555
Not really what I'm fishing for. I do agree that to protect the civilians from a slaughter we would have to stay for many years.
I was hoping for more of a discussion on the rights and wrongs of this. No matter how we feel about going in to begin with, this issue of what happens
when we leave is for real to many people. I used Vietnam because what happened is the world turned its back while the slaughtered had no voice. We
were wrong to exit how we did. It cost a huge number of lives. Handing those people over to the enemy was worse than joining in their civil war in the
I don't hear any discussion of this to speak of and its very important; if innocent lives are important. I hear everyone wanting the troops to pull
out, but almost never do they consider all sides of that issue.
I understand and admire where you are comming from. You are one of the few rare ones who thinks in terms of arm resistance and might to counter the
bullying ways of the brutal talibans. It is very noble of you to think that way, and I am sincere of my praise to you. You are the kind of person with
noble passions and should be leading mankind instead of the elite with their base emotions.
But noble passions are not enough to win a war, one that sinks him to the level of the animals. At the end of the day, those whom you think you are
saving will not see the difference between you and the taliban. Both are equally brutal, causing death and destruction, with them caught in
The afghani human is no different from us. He/she shares the same common aspirations as we all do - equality, peace, justice and progress. But having
been largely kept ignorant of progresses made by other humanity due to their isolation and deprevation by their political leaders, there needs are
simpler than ours.
Therefore what we think is necessary, may not seem that way to them, as our perceptions were shaped by our modern trappings, religion and education.
There is more, but to the point - their worldview is different from us. Only commonality lays in our aspirations.
They may not realize or will be willing to accept the fact that they are weak and ignorant, and need your help to secure their lives and usually is
out of pride. It is a loss to their manhood, the only thing left that could shine and let them stand tall.
Without that pride, they will never be able to stand tall to their fellow countrymen on who shed blood to save the nation, which is why freedom can
NEVER be bestowed by foreigners.
It must come from them, that they have this pride, and a remembrance each time the nation fails to give them strength to fight and stand tall
This is not some silly ego, but a vital trait critical for nation building. Without it, there will be no soveriegnity as well as oneness. They will
only become strangers living in their own land, caring only about themselves and never a thought of unity.
Best the Alliance walks out now, and let the afghanis settle this issue themselves. Settle for a withdrawal similar to Vietnam. Open the floodgates
for refugees mercifully.
The afghanis must stand on their own feet and only this way can they forge a new nation, or be cowed by the warlords, the druglords and the taliban.
It will be their free will and choice as a soveriegn people.
There will be horrors being committed to the civilians after the Alliance walks out, and no human can shut their eyes and ears to it. It
The rest of the world can only help by enforcing economic sanctions, not to deal with them, and let their products rot. In time of critical need will
the people stand up as one and fight for their rights.
May they do so soon...There is no other way...
May the Afghans, our fellow brothers and sisters by creation, be spared of more sufferings......