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Matt Simmons says BP covering up MASSIVE HOLE miles away

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posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 01:51 AM
Thanks for posting this Lupin.

Here is a link to an article that may explain where Simmons has gotten his info from regarding the ruptured sea-floor

Quite scary. If this is an any way true MSM and BP need to be dragged into the streets and lynched. It angers me so much to see on my nightly news "HOORAY BP have finally PLUGGED THE WELL....!!!!! It's all over!"

No. It's NOT all over. Get to the bottom of these reports of ruptures in the sea floor NOW

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 01:56 AM
I'm very cautious when it comes to what this gentleman says, granted alot of it does make sense but he doesn't seem to have alot of street cred in the drilling community as seen on the Oil Drum website. Also if there was such a massive hole I think the entire Gulf and Caribbean would be pitch black right now.

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 02:00 AM

Matthew Simmons, founder and chairman emeritus of Simmons & Company International, is a prominent oil-industry insider and one of the world's leading experts on the topic of peak oil. Simmons was motivated by the 1973 energy crisis to create an investment banking firm catering to oil companies. In his previous capacity, he served as energy adviser to U.S. President George W. Bush.


One has to ask, does Matthew Simmons possess an objective view? It doesn't seem very likely.

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 02:20 AM
reply to post by dragonsmusic

I think you may be right, but I also think that may be what they want.
we'll see I guess.

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 02:30 AM
I see so many that trust this guy so much, and I really do want to understand.. Why exactly do you folks trust a man who created an investment banking firm catering to oil companies, especially given the topic you trust him about???

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 03:43 AM
reply to post by iamfascinated

when it all kicked off i saw some james fox clips of cracks in the sea floor bp have drilled a 10000 ft superwell on the sly and guess what they've cocked it up so unless they can use a really big trowl and some saltproof filler were goosed

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 03:59 AM
People still listen to Matt Simmons? Not good at all !

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 04:26 AM
Yes one wonders the amout of oil estimated to be in the Gulf could come from one 6inch outlet. The unknown environment all that way below the sea has pressures beyond anyone has ever experienced. Let alone the real pressure of the oil comming out of the vent. They are using ROV's with little camera imaging buzzing aroud a small area in a big sea. How could they for certain know there is no other fracture in the Earth spewing out oil. The media releases are so censored and few and far between this would naturally make one be suspect at what is the truth. I'm sure for one thing ! Only time will tell and the real truth will surface (pardon the pun) Or will it be too late and the truth wont matter only Survival will.....
Good post thanks

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 04:52 AM
This guy, without seeing a 'massive' hole, having heard it from somewhere, assumes that there is in fact - a massive hole.
There is.. it's in his head!

[edit on 16-7-2010 by daggyz]

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 05:15 AM

Originally posted by nite owl

this is the elephant in the room in my opinion......but no one wants the bible to be true....

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 05:29 AM
If there are any other leaks, they are going to be spewing out hard now that have "stopped" the original one.

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 05:33 AM
Simmons is an economist.

As pointed out by Moriarty he has zero cred among the actual oil experts over at the oil drum website ( are generally all very outspokenly critical of BP. The consensus at that site is that Simmons is a nuisance.

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 05:44 AM
Surely BP can't be so stupid to cover a fake little hole and just leave another hole of which the size keeps growing or numerous holes and just throw their hands in the air? If they don't let the American authorities or scientists know about the "rupturing" sea floor then going from billions of dollars of fines all BP top management will probably be jailed, the only way to cover op a hole is to actually cover it up.

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 06:30 AM
i was under the impression that there was more then one leak , about 3-4 and they stretch over an area of about 300km

this tv bp nonsence is just the tip of what they dare to tell you

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 06:51 AM
My theory is they timed the installation of this with the relief well being very close to its objective. Now that they have it capped they will kill the well with the relief well. Once it is killed all leaks will stop. If you capped it months ago then the other leaks would still be leaking and it would be apparent that there is another leak.

Since the well is capped and the relief wells is very close they will be able to hide the other leaks easier. When they go to court for any fines they will be able to show the only leak as the one at the bop. The scientist will come in and show a much lower barrel per day leak than it actually is. You must realize that it is a 7 inch riser pipe in the sea floor. for this oil to cover an area that the spill is in is impossible.

Look at he link below it is for the complete specifications of the macondo project.

If you look through you will see the burst pressure of the pipe is 14,156 psi. Using this maximum pressure we can calculate the maximum flow. Use link below and go to the pressure drop calculator. I used the drop in pressure from 2 seprate pipes a 7 inch and a 9 7/8 inch pipe. This information is in the first link.

Since I am a complete moron I have no clue how to do this using these tools. I am typing this and as I am doing it I am totally confused. Anyway would appreciate a math guy to go over this and help me out. The flow rate can be calculated using the maximum burst pressure. This would of course be the maximum amount the wellhead could produce.

p.s. the spreadsheet came from this

[edit on 16-7-2010 by jlafleur02]

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 06:59 AM
In response to the Matt Simmons article or report (CNN iReport) down in the comments section someone said the report was plagiarized and that it was originally written by Sorcha Faal.


[edit on 16-7-2010 by Ektar]

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 07:06 AM

Originally posted by nite owl

There isn't enough oil in that thing to turn 1/100th of the oceans red, let alone 1/3rd.

Need a bit more proof of a killer second hole, this story has little to go on.

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 07:34 AM
reply to post by Lupin

If the guy is as credible as he claims, surely he would know there are no naval subs that can penetrate those depths? .. and unless they know exactly where the hole is.. submersibles won't do much good either..

And why would there be a massive hole so far from the riser? .. if its conected to the shaft, there wouldn't be any pressure at the riser, yet there is. If its not connected to the main shaft, where's it coming from? .. the actual well is deep, very deep, underground..

Just tryin to understand..

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 07:41 AM
It is strange to me that not one single attempt has been made (that we know of) to get any other cameras down there to see what is going on? There has to be someone on this planet with funding and a desire to show the full extent of BP's lies. BP is not the only company with ROV cameras, are they? Just a thought.

posted on Jul, 16 2010 @ 07:58 AM
reply to post by fleabit

And you, in turn, know this how? ... Just asking

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