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Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by mryanbrown
Originally posted by Darkrunner
What I hate is the homosexual propaganda machine telling us that homosexuality is perfectly normal.
And the conservative homosexuals hate the heterosexual propaganda machine telling them that homosexuality is perfectly abnormal.
Look into a mirror now and then. Heterosexuals are not moral for simply being heterosexual.
Thats all well and good but what we are talking about is changing and challenging the meaning of marriage and gays need to understand that. As it stands hetrosexuals are not considered immoral simply for being hetro whiel homosexuals are and gay marriage wont change that it would seem.
Originally posted by Logarock
We dont have to fall back and let gays just waltz on in and attach themeselves
to this meaning as if the parts are interchangeable and without any meaning other than contract or because of happiness.
Interracial marriage in the United States has been fully legal in all U.S. states since the 1967 Supreme Court decision that deemed anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional, with many states choosing to legalize interracial marriage at much earlier dates.
Originally posted by Darkrunner
reply to post by mryanbrown
I believe I said in my original post that I believe gays should have the right to marry if they wish, or did you miss that part?
I just said homosexuality is an aberration, be it genetic or what have you.
To say that homosexuality is normal is an outright lie. If it were, then that's what everybody would be doing, would they not?
And again, I'm not some right wing religious nut. Marry whomever you wish-just don't try telling me that that behavior is normal.
Originally posted by Logarock
reply to post by mryanbrown
Your lack of understanding about what marriage is is all the more reason it shouldnt be allowed in a gay context.
▸ noun: the act of marrying; the nuptial ceremony ("Their marriage was conducted in the chapel")
▸ noun: two people who are married to each other ("His second marriage was happier than the first")
▸ noun: the state of being a married couple voluntarily joined for life (or until divorce) ("A long and happy marriage")
▸ noun: a close and intimate union ("The marriage of music and dance")
Originally posted by Logarock
reply to post by mryanbrown
Your lack of understanding about what marriage is is all the more reason it shouldnt be allowed in a gay context.
And you may have some points on a marriage not being what it should be in all ways based on some religion. But the bed is still sanctifed in a hetrosexual marriage, the union itself not being challanged here and any weak points are within that context and not a challange to the whole.
That cant be said and shouldnt be said for gay marriage. You can whittle it down to your size all you like but its all in your mind.
Originally posted by Darkrunner
reply to post by mryanbrown
I believe I said in my original post that I believe gays should have the right to marry if they wish, or did you miss that part?
I just said homosexuality is an aberration, be it genetic or what have you.
Originally posted by mryanbrown
Originally posted by Darkrunner
reply to post by mryanbrown
I believe I said in my original post that I believe gays should have the right to marry if they wish, or did you miss that part?
I just said homosexuality is an aberration, be it genetic or what have you.
To say that homosexuality is normal is an outright lie. If it were, then that's what everybody would be doing, would they not?
And again, I'm not some right wing religious nut. Marry whomever you wish-just don't try telling me that that behavior is normal.
I'm not arguing your position. Just the accusation that religion has any bearing on marriage anymore. Or that the religious meaning will somehow be changed. Because that happened long ago.
I'm heterosexual. I believe in the spiritual bond between a man and a woman. But if it takes a homosexual relationship powered by actual love for an individual not specifically the sexual act to find happiness, then I find solace in allowing homosexuals to marry.
Because in that scenario there is more love in the relationship than a man and a woman who marry simply because that is the thing to do. And it's all about love.
Once love can be found, then the world can actually make a shift to naturally find balance overtime. Forcing it only complicates things.
There was a wonderful passage from Jesus I was attempting to locate but have had no luck. The summary being that Jesus was trying to teach us love above all else. Where we could love someone beyond their sex whether a man loving a man, woman loving a woman, man loving a woman, or woman loving a man.
it was about overcoming the physical form and loving someone fully for who they are. And once that is achieved then sex, and marriage is no longer necessary.
Which is why I say both sides are faulty, and as such just let the other be in peace. So that we may all rise, instead of the fallen bringing all of us down with them.
[edit on 10-7-2010 by mryanbrown]
Originally posted by Radiobuzz
I too believe marriage should keep its historic and religious definition. I also believe salary should also keep it. We should get paid with salt just like in the good old days.
PS: It's been a long time since this forum became inadequate to discuss gay subjects.
Originally posted by Radiobuzz
PS: It's been a long time since this forum became inadequate to discuss gay subjects.
Originally posted by Radiobuzz
With "gay subjects" I meant any sort of subject with the word "gay" on it.
Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by Radiobuzz
PS: It's been a long time since this forum became inadequate to discuss gay subjects.
A gay subject isnt being discussed here. Marriage is.