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Originally posted by Nerdling
One nation under Canada, above Mexico.
I do object to the God part, its a stupid sneaky way to get a little bit of religion into kids minds.
Lets face it, this all boils down to the old prayer in schools question. The pledge is nothing more than a diluted prayer with "under god" in it.
Originally posted by RogueX
I am unashamed in saying: Finally, traditional America has the drawn the line. No longer shall the majority bow to the minority
Originally posted by df1
The constitutional challenge over the word "God" in the pledge is trivial. The real issue is whether or not it is appropriate to require a pledge of allegiance to the government at all. Government should be pledging allegiance to the people, not vice versa.
When government behaves as it should it will have the allegiance of the people making any pledge unnecessary. When government does not behave as it should any pledge is a mockery.
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Originally posted by RogueX
I didn't mean the majority is always right. I just mean that when I grow up and have kids I want them to be able to pledge allegiance to their country and God. If you don't want to say it then don't say it, but don't ban others from saying it.
Originally posted by Narnia
Actually the word "god" is not trivial when placed in a ritual for the purpose of allegiance to a larger body of people. The pledge of allegiance is the totem to unity in America, so I differ in that opinion. We are a nation of diversity, unison should be at the core of any ritual. Under "god" which implies a Christian god, divides us, as we are not all Christians. The original pledge had that forethought, but then the religious sect of society, being the majority, (as Nerdling so brilliantly put it) snuck it in.
Originally posted by Faisca
Well... This nation was founded on Christian principles. Like it or not, we're really a Christian nation. Being a Christian nation doesn't neccessarily mean theocracy, either. It just means that our nation was founded on principles of Christianity.
If you don't want to say it then don't say it
Originally posted by curme
This nation was founded on a lot of dumb ideas. Slavery, inequality of women, the massacre of Native Americans, but as we grow as a Nation, we become more mature, and understand that some of the things this country was founded on aren't that great and needs to be changed.