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A survey of 1372 climate scientists has concluded that the overwhelming majority support the basic idea that humans are significantly affecting the Earth's climate. The study also claims that the scientists, who are skeptical of anthropogenic climate change (ACC), tend to hold less "credible" publication records.
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Lorraine Whitmarsh, a social science researcher at Cardiff University, welcomes the study as the first attempt to rate the "credibility" of climate scientists with different views about climate change. She is a bit concerned, however, about the selection process for the survey's participants.
"The [survey] deliberately selects scientists who have signed high-profile public documents about their views, and so exclude those researchers 'behind the scenes', perhaps with less extreme views one way or the other," she says.
Indeed, Whitmarsh points out that the survey excludes the 26% of researchers who are neither convinced nor unconvinced by the ACC arguments.
Andrew Russell, a climate researcher at the University of Manchester, says that the findings are "interesting", but is not sure how they will help in the communication of climate science. "The science can and should win the argument on its own, he says.
Russell believes that the media is often to blame when it comes to over-emphasizing the scale of skepticism towards ACC within the climate science community. "There are valid and truly skeptical questions that need asking of climate science but they don't fit the narrative that parts of the media have constructed so they don't get aired," he says.
Originally posted by kinda kurious
It is beyond my comprehension to think that any sane and rational person could somehow dismiss the adverse effects of the human population om our planet. It defies logic that our presence and by products pose no harm to nature animals and delicate ecosystems. To deny climate change is utterly absurd.
However, it is the EXACT SAME Drill Baby Drill crowd that refuses to accept our plight as a result of our reckless disregard for the environment and the ensuing catastrophic Gulf Oil disaster. Less credible indeed.
Climate change sceptics are less 'credible' scientists, finds survey
My first objection is about the financial-political "solution" proffered and obviously preferred by the establishment; namely "Cap and Trade". My second objection is that complacently accepting the CO2 issue as the problem, we ignore many MANY other contributory factors and are content to stop looking for other - perhaps even more acute causes of accelerated climate change conditions.
The reason the information is 'manipulated and skewed' is because left to our own analysis, they cannot guarantee our compliance. And since we are talking a new industry which would be destined to generate hundreds of billions in revenue, I suspect there is a motive there to deceive.
"The [survey] deliberately selects scientists who have signed high-profile public documents about their views, and so exclude those researchers 'behind the scenes', perhaps with less extreme views one way or the other," she says.
Indeed, Whitmarsh points out that the survey excludes the 26% of researchers who are neither convinced nor unconvinced by the ACC arguments.
Originally posted by Maxmars
reply to post by melatonin
"The [survey] deliberately selects scientists who have signed high-profile public documents about their views, and so exclude those researchers 'behind the scenes', perhaps with less extreme views one way or the other," she says.
Indeed, Whitmarsh points out that the survey excludes the 26% of researchers who are neither convinced nor unconvinced by the ACC arguments.
Do you think this observation is incorrect, or exemplary of the problem? I wonder if the same observation made in the article is just as applicable to the other surveys you cite? It would be interesting to know.
I have difficulty accepting the applicability of carbon as the singular climate issue, and I fail to see the applicability of the considered solution as a means to effect change. The fixation on carbon, I believe, is partly inspired by the revenue possibilities. Perhaps someone more erudite in climatology can explain more robust strategy for achieving an actual decrease of industrial pollution, that might have a more immediate and measurable effect.
You seem to resent the connection between the contrivance and the environment as a matter of trite or irrelevant ideology. Perhaps you can explain how the two are disconnected.
Surveys, and the business of interpreting them, have always interested me. I found it more than mildly interesting that the author of this article presented their case including the explicit recognition that the methodology was suspect. THAT was the newsworthy part to me. Not really our dire need of industrial (corporate) behavioral reform, which I believe is the true root of the environmental damage of the last two centuries.
Originally posted by kinda kurious
It is beyond my comprehension to think that any sane and rational person could somehow dismiss the adverse effects of the human population on our planet. It defies logic that our presence and by products pose no harm to nature animals and delicate ecosystems. To deny climate change is utterly absurd.
However, it is the EXACT SAME Drill Baby Drill crowd that refuses to accept our plight as a result of our reckless disregard for the environment and the ensuing catastrophic Gulf Oil disaster. Less credible indeed. Is duh a word?
[edit on 25-6-2010 by kinda kurious]
Originally posted by Maxmars
While titled "Climate change skeptics are less 'credible' scientists, finds survey" ... the article clarifies that: "scientists, who are skeptical of anthropogenic climate change (ACC), tend to hold less "credible" publication records."
If I may point out - one is not equivalent to the other. For decades, Einstein, Edison, and even the great Tesla had "less credible publication records." That did not make them automatically wrong. But needless to say the politically more palatable ACC supporters benefit from the scientific communities tacit support, as is evidenced in the article itself.
[edit on 25-6-2010 by Maxmars]
Originally posted by Maxmars
The study also claims that the scientists, who are skeptical of anthropogenic climate change (ACC), tend to hold less "credible" publication records.