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Leaked: Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users via OTA Updates

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posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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Leaked: Apple Stealing All FaceTime Information, AT&T Locks Users via OTA Updates


www.addictivetips.com

First off, we will divide the leaks into different topics in order of the communication that took place.

* With iOS 4, AT&T locks all US iPhone owners to their network via regular OTA updates.
* AT&T shipped some iPhone 4 early to verify their OTA update system.
* Apple stealing user information via FaceTime, which lacks encryption.
* Some Apple employees who are aware of this situation are not updating to iOS 4.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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Oh my GOSH!

This is way over the top in many situations....

Wonder how Steve is going to respond to this one?

For those who don't know facetime is basically the video chat program that will be available on the iphone 4g

So what do you think? Does this make you not want one anymore? Or are you still going to get one thinking this will all be fixed in a firmware upgrade?

Also... OTA means Over the Air...



www.addictivetips.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:43 PM
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They will either remove the location thingy or give a good reason for it.
I don't think Apple would crap on people like this, that easily.

And I honestly don't really give a #!@* if Apple knows when I'm chatting with my dad and where... ?

It's not like I'm selling drugs over facetime or talking NWO...



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 03:52 PM
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of course not!





Well that makes a very good point... could this have been done "by request"?????



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:04 PM
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You have to take these reports about Apple with a grain of salt. You see, apple is the type of company that can easily and quickly be hurt by negative rumors so large-volume investors can easily spread negative rumors after placing large " put options" orders on the company. If the stocks take even the smallest dip, then those options pay off big time. Because of the ease in doing this with apple (a company that completely depends on its reputation), it is done quite often. In fact, I think I can remember Cramer even saying something about this.

--airspoon



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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if that is true just another proof that Apple is just clueless

people want freedom, they dont want to have to use their SO, besides, why would Apple receive a message and a GPS location when 2 people connect using videochat or whatever?

thats just CRAZY privacy issues

they should be arrested if that is true



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:17 PM
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I had no intention of getting one anyway. The only kind of apple I will ever buy they sell at the grocery store. And AT&T?


But the idea that airspoon presented does make sense. Apple does seem to have more than their share of 'investors' that play on their put options to make money.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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Well Apple recently updated their privacy policy as well. I was reading about it earlier on a different website. Apple's addition to their privacy policy quoted below:




Location-Based Services

To provide location-based services on Apple products, Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device. This location data is collected anonymously in a form that does not personally identify you and is used by Apple and our partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based products and services. For example, we may share geographic location with application providers when you opt in to their location services.

Some location-based services offered by Apple, such as the MobileMe “Find My iPhone” feature, require your personal information for the feature to work.


You should note that unless you *agree* to their new privacy policy, you'll be unable to download anything from either the iTunes or App stores. Further worry is that this doesn't just regard the iPhone and iPad, but also includes their laptops, desktops, servers, iPods, and whatnot.

Personally, I am starting to believe that Apple is working closely with the US Government.


[edit on 23-6-2010 by The Theorist]



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:24 PM
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This whole thing is quite representative of what happened to America.

It is called "Consumerism" The newest gadget...some just have to have it so bad that they are willing to take on debt to get it. I have a friend with the Apple 3, and she is already thinking of how to get the newest one. Why? Now, if she needed a new phone, getting the latest and greatest makes sense. But to sell a perfectly functional device, which you just barely paid for, so you can get the newest one, is downright stupid. Every bit of stupid.

Me? I have a laptop. No need for a Kindle, or a data phone. If i need internet, i use my laptop. If i need internet while standing in the street, then i get over it by making sure i understand the difference between "want", "need", and "convenience".

Stop buying all this crap, people. It is wasteful and only deepening your own debt.

Me? I use Boost mobile. I get unlimited everything for $60 a month on my Boost mobile Blackberry Curve. If they try to cap my data like ATT does, then i simply downgrade back to my Moto Clutch. I NEED a phone. Everything else is just superfluous.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
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of course not!





Well that makes a very good point... could this have been done "by request"?????


Yeah I guess.. Maybe the US GVT is behind this!

Gogo conspiracies



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 05:22 PM
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I downloaded the new iPhone SW last night and I already found a few bugs. They'll be releasing an update shortly I'm sure.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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Me? I have a laptop. No need for a Kindle, or a data phone. If i need internet, i use my laptop. If i need internet while standing in the street, then i get over it by making sure i understand the difference between "want", "need", and "convenience".


I was just like you before I got the iPhone. Now, life is so much easier and I have everything I need, right here on this one little device.

I compare it to diving. You don't need SCUBA to go diving, but it sure will make your dive a whole lot better. It's funny, people who don't have the iPhone, look at the device as if it's an over-priced gadget that doesn't do anything spectacular, including myself before getting it as a gift. Those that do have it, see it as the marvel that it really is. The user-interface is what separates this hand-held computer from everything else on the market, making it actually usable for tasks that other PDAs and smart-phones could only do with a little hassle.

This is not even mentioning that it's Apple, which means that it simply works. All of Apple's products, simply work. That's the beauty of their existence. With their computers for instance, all you have to do is open the box, plug it in and push the 'on' button and it will work until you decide to replace it with a newer model. PCs on the other hand will work until they break, crash or lose steam, all the time giving you one big head-ache the entire time, in turn forcing you to replace them when these things happen. I use both Apple, Windows and Linux machines (only using Apple for the past several years), and I have never gotten frustrated or flustered with an Apple product.... ever. My PCs give me trouble on an almost daily basis. PC users are just so used to these troubles that it isn't all that noticeable anymore, until you start using a superior product.

To me, the higher price of Apple is justified by far, as it's Apple's shtick and ultimately their selling point. For the most part, you aren't paying a higher price for the look or brand name, you are paying the higher price for the feel, usability, quality, experience and dependability. Many people who don't use Apple products or Apple computers just can't understand what the big deal is and that's only because they don't use Apple products. They would understand if they spent any amount of considerable time with such a product.

Just my two cents.

--airspoon



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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I agree that they are nifty gadgets. My son has a droid, and i like his phone a lot. We have an IPod Touch, which is similar in function. I get it.

What i don't get is the redundancy when most Americans (perhaps not yourself) cannot afford it. Savings is not being done, and just about every purchase is fueling our nations prime export: debt.

My oldest just graduated. The local HS provides a Macbook to each student while they are enrolled. I am pretty familiar with Mac, and grew up with the Apple-Apple II/c. Their near stranglehold on their OS, and the proprietary tech involved, does make them an attractive option when dealing with someone who prefers it. I find the Mac's OS to be a lot like Ubuntu: eerily similar to Windoze, but still foreign enough to make you have to take awhile to do anything until you figure it out. Must be like a Spaniard speaking Portuguese.

What really irks me about Apple is this: you spend a premium price for their product only to have them mete out software for it based on what they want to see done with it. This, to me, is corporate facism. This, above any other reason, is why i deal with Apple as little as possible. I prefer my Siren mp3 player, actually. The Ipod was a gift that my youngest son pretty much uses exclusively. I just feel all dirty after using it.

FWIW, i prefer Ubuntu. It is mostly because of my chip on my shoulder about things like corporate facism and monopolies. I am dying to see an alternative firmware that i could mod my XBox with so that i could free it up to truly be mine, rather than like it is, where i have to work around measures taken to keep me from being able to effect my own repairs. Have you ever seen what you have to do just to simply replace the DVD ROM?

it really bothers me to see the direction that corporations are moving, where they still assert a soft ownership over the products you buy from them. It is like you are paying them a fortune for the privilege of using their product.



posted on Jun, 23 2010 @ 09:18 PM
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Well OS-X is just like Ubuntu, as they are both based on *nix platforms. Mac OS-X is based on FreeBSD (the underlying Darwin anyway) which is Unix, while Ubuntu is based on Linux/GNU, a Unix-like operating system. Also, Apple is completely different from what it was back in the day with the Apple II. It was really revitalized when Apple brought Steve Jobs back to the table in 1997, completely changing Apple's mission and goals. By the time he came back to Apple, the company had already lost out on most of the market-share, causing apple to refocus and set their goals on producing a superior product as their niche. FWIW, the macbook was their bottom of the line product but still probably had zero problems.

As far as Apple picking and choosing the software, I have to agree, though that is only with the hand-helds and it is to make the devices secure. Once you allow any developer to write code for the platform, viruses would run rampant. With that being said, I still don't like the idea of how Apple goes about it. With the bigger products such as computers, that's not the case and in fact, Apple isn't even confined to OS-X, as you can run linux and Windows on it too, along with most other components. For the most part, all of Apple's hardware for Macs is commercially available hardware, it just happens to be the higher-end components. This wasn't the case with earlier models because Apple was using the G5 processor built by IBM. IBM used this processor, known as the PowerPC processor for their higher end servers. So even those components weren't proprietary, it just seemed so because most people aren't familiar with powerful IBM architecture. Really, in my opinion, Apple moving to Pentium was a step down, but it allowed Apple to lower the prices of their machines a little.

So again, Apple is only metering out software for the smaller devices for the reason of security, or at least that's what they say and it is believable to a degree. Their computers aren't that way at all. Really, other creators of handhelds do the same thing too. Also, you can "jail-break" the iPhone and iPod to keep it away from Apple's metering of software, which would also allow you to put whatever you want on the phone/device. All in all, Apple is no different than other handheld device companies in the way they are securing their platforms. Apple just gets all of the slack from it because they are the most popular.

Have you tried putting linux on your X-Box? I don't have an X-Box but I believe it's possible. That may be an answer to your problems. Also, I hear you on the direction of corporate America and I see the trend as well. I really believe that it has to do with the "dumbing down" of America and censoring/limiting our information. It seems to be a way to steer society in a certain way. It is very bothersome but where there is a will, there is a way.

--airspoon




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