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Ive been watching the live www.livestream.com... feed for 10 mins and to me it looks like more gas is coming out than oil. Its a much more grey colour now ,also you can see the gas cling and wrap around parts of the BP machinery.
Originally posted by Nidwin
reply to post by tarifa37
I don't think so.
The grayish stuff you see is the dispersant being mixed with the oil.
The 2 arms of the ROV are holding the dispersant "tube" into the oil flow going up.
Methane levels 40% instead of normal 5% in Gulf - Scientists are Worried
A new article out today might inadvertently add some weight to Richard Hoagland's claim /theory/rumour of a methane bubble under the sea waiting to explode on some Armegeddon -type level. ...?
Hoagland warns of Gas Bubble and Tsunami of Biblical Proportions
According to oceanographer John Kessler the methane levels in the oil coming from the sea floor now are at 40 % compared to the normal 5% found in typical oil deposits.
This first harvest of methane hydrate could mark a new direction for the energy industry. Engineers once assumed that the energy costs of melting the frozen fuel would outweigh the gains. But rising oil and gas prices and creative uses of existing technology, like the recent test in the Canadian Arctic, are beginning to change their minds. The United States Geological Survey estimates that the total amount of natural gas in methane hydrates surpasses all of the known oil, coal, and gas deposits on Earth in energy content, although only a fraction of the frozen fuel will be extractable. The hydrates can form at any latitude on Earth if temperature and pressure conditions are right, and are usually mixed with sediment under the ocean floor.
The hazard results not just from tapping into hydrates themselves, but from oil companies' and governments' drive to explore for petroleum in deeper waters than ever before, Paull says. Propelled by the highest oil prices in a more than a decade, engineers in the Gulf of Mexico and the North Sea are extracting oil and natural gas in waters more than a kilometer deep entering the zone where methane hydrate mingles with sediment and rock.
Normally, the pressure of hundreds of meters of water above keeps the frozen methane stable. But heat flowing from oil drilling and pipelines has the potential to slowly destabilize it, with possibly disastrous results: Melting hydrate might trigger underwater landslides as it decomposes. Scientists hypothesize, in fact, that 8,000 years ago, decomposing hydrate helped to generate a gigantic landslide under the North Sea. The resulting tsunami scoured the Norwegian fjords and scattered seafloor sediment across Holland and Scotland. While no one is predicting that drilling could catalyze an event of such catastrophic proportions, an underwater slide in an oil field could cause enormous environmental damage from oil spills that couldn't be easily stopped.
Those oil platforms are some of the largest and most expensive structures ever constructed by humans, he says. The chance of an incident is very small, but can we afford to have just one? The oil industry has not addressed scientists' questions about seafloor stability to my satisfaction in a public way
Recently, he went to the Gulf of Mexico to map the hydrates and assess their risk to the oil industry. And this summer he will travel to the North Sea to investigate the seafloor at the site of the ancient landslide, where energy companies are developing a huge oil field. Each destination tells a different story about the frozen fuel that can help researchers assess whether methane hydrate is an energy boon, or a disaster waiting to happen.
The most promising places to mine hydrates, he says, are sites where deposits are concentrated, like veins of ore such as in the Arctic. But the Gulf of Mexico is also a hot target. The Gulf already accounts for 30 percent of U.S oil production and the bulk of exploration for new oil reserves. The crucial thing about the Gulf of Mexico, Collett says, is that when we figure out how much methane hydrate there actually is, the infrastructure to take advantage of it already exists
Originally posted by atlguy
"a layer of oil tens of feet thick floating on the water"... WOW!
We could ALL drive Hummers!
Seriously, though - Worst case, we'd lose a ton of people due to the air being poisoned, but it wouldn't happen overnight. A large number of people would be saved by using gas masks and the like. Home filtration systems, sealed-buildings, etc would all become the norm.
[edit on 18-6-2010 by atlguy]
Originally posted by DerekJR321
That wouldn't really be the case though. The oxygen levels would be too low, and methane levels too high. Using a gas mask, you would probably just suffocate anyway.
Lets face facts, BP can not contain this. I have a vision of this situation getting to the point that they DO decide to put a nuke down there. And then, we're done for. With the amount of methane speculated to be in the gulf, wouldn't a nuke cook it all off? Thus creating massive landslides underwater, thus creating massive tsunamis all over the world?
Maybe the 2012 predictions weren't so off. Sad too because I have a 9 year old son. I don't see the future being too bright. I've lived my life already.... he hasn't.
Originally posted by St Udio
yeah, climate change is here... but not as the NWO elites had it planned,
fate/destiny/mother-nature has exercised its consciousness, to show-who's-boss & to establish that 'she' is the power-greater-than-ourselves
There is no denying that science & meta-physics are blended in this ongoing saga, & this acknowledgement is the meaning of the anticipated 2012 'awakening' of the peoples....
Originally posted by DaMod
I don't know about you guys but I like this planet. I think it's a pretty cool place. We need to protect it. Quit talking doomsday scenarios and start talking SOLUTIONS!!!
Originally posted by atlguy
Regarding the comment about oil "tens of feet deep" on the surface of the ocean - first, I'd like to see the source for that info or I will assume it was pulled out of the air.
THE OP believes that some posters to this thread, posted incorrect numerical data.
What follows are the OP's calculations. If they are materially wrong, please post corrections and explain all discrepancies. Some rounding between computations was used but did not effect the material message of the results. Thank you.
Originally posted by Gold_Bug
It's hard for me to understand how anyone could be an 'expert' on the geology that exists in the crustal layer that begins a few miles down (the point where BP drilled to) and ends at the mantel/plate boundary. No one has ever explored this region, with a drill bit or otherwise, to become an 'expert'.
Originally posted by nataylor
It'd be nice to even prove that abiotic oil exists before you start imagining doomsday scenarios that involve it.