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Gulf Disaster Coincidence, my theory...

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posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 06:23 AM
I have never truly left an opinion piece on any of these forums so if I am incorrect in posting this please inform me or if a mod sees this then please move to the appropriate section.

I have been reading the Gulf Oil Disaster pieces almost daily on the site and I just recently had a thought that calculated up pretty well.

I personally am not sure if weather manipulation is possible to the extent of Hurricanes, Earthquakes, or such. However, I do recall Katrina vividly since it affected Texas in a huge way with the influx of refugees from Louisiana.

Now, I have noticed something rather funny…

First, Katrina happened which has caused millions of people to leave the state of Louisiana. The destruction was so great that to this day the city is still not completely fixed.

Secondly, in the same general area "the BP Oil Disaster" has happened causing massive destruction to the area and even the possibility of job creation which would allow for growth or further development in the area.

Third, instead of cleaning it up, stopping the leak, or listening to anyone with any knowledge of fixing these types of situations – the government and BP seem to be deaf.

Fourth, the chemicals used (dispersants) are highly toxic and will cause massive damage to the ocean, ocean life, Gulf Stream, land, human life, and the air. Not to mention the damage of the oil, gas and other chemicals exiting the "Spill" this is not an actual spill but a "LEAK".

Fifth, the National Guard, the Navy, or any other military presence is only there to observe and to assist which is rather fishy since the "Government" is sitting on its hands waiting for BP to fix the problem when they are the one that caused the problem. (50+ days out and still no fix or real cleanup or prevention of spreading is happening).

Sixth, there are four states directly affected by this disaster and can increase to the whole East Coast and to Iceland, Greenland, the UK and Europe. If caught up in the Gulf Stream.

So if you look at all this there are questions that have to be asked…

Was Katrina created on purpose?
Was the "the BP Oil Disaster" on purpose?
Why not fix the disaster, clean the mess, or listen to more options?

What is the true size of the oil deposits, reserves, and resources under Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida?

Why are we trying to make the land unlivable, worthless, barren, and a waste?

Why are we acting as if this is just something that happened and that the guys that created this mess are the only ones that can fix it?

Now, IMHO I believe that this whole disaster was on purpose to require the Gulf residents which live in the affected areas, right above the HUGE oil reserves, deposits, resources to move out.

This disaster will destroy the land, livelihoods, and cause havoc for decades.

To make amends with the people of that region, BP will be required to purchase the land from the people that are affected at a highly discounted rate due to the land being unlivable and due to the government putting a cap on the price. People will be compensated to get the hell out of dodge and will be sad but at the same happy to at least get something for a now worthless piece of land.

Since the disaster will spread to Mississippi, Alabama and Florida either the federal government will pull a land grab from the fleeing people or the destruction will make it viable for them to turn this region in to another piece of government property.

This is a power and money plays my friends, there is way more to this than meets the eye. Greed blinds you of your senses, and my senses say the idiots that think this will benefit their pockets are quite blind indeed. The repercussions of this action will be felt so vividly and strong that this could be the straw that breaks the camels back.


Fakshon Avion Amari…

P.S. This is my opinion and a thought that occurred while researching and contemplating the info below face value.

[edit on 12-6-2010 by Fakshon]

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 07:26 AM
You're not alone in your thinking at all. Many think the same way who can't overlook the coincidence(s).

Makes you wonder what's really up and what their ultimate plans are.
I can't help but put Haiti's earthquake into the mixture too. That too, is down here (I'm in Florida) as well.

Here in Florida, every other house is either for sale, for rent or foreclosed.
I don't know what it's like up in Louisiana or Alabama but I can't imagine it's much better.
So? Is this a plot? A ploy? An agenda?

Will this be an attempt to take over the SE corner of north America?
Will Haiti be a part of this 'takeover'?

What's REALLY going on here?

I know, I am literally stuck here. I don't have the resources to up and move and I think I speak for the average Joe down here too!

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 07:40 AM
How about it being a means of getting foreign troops to land on-mass via ship (again, as in Katrina), to disburse in small groups/fan out throughout the country undetected/witnessed by media (blackout) or citizens (distracted or moved/disallowed access to ports). This would avoid an obvious influx entering/leaving military installations (if arrived at one) or if arriving by commercial (one way ticket) transportation.

The traffic (as far as large trucks or high capacity busses) would go fairly unnoticed and would be considered by an outsider to be 'cleanup' personnel.

dunno, just a paranoid guess.

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 07:41 AM
I've also been thinking for a while now that this could be the biggest land grab since the"Louisiana Purchase." Oh, my did I just say that? You beat me to it OP, great post. You're thinking

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 07:46 AM

How about aliens.

Perhaps (as it is often said) their physical composition is so different that oil slicks like these (and the air it creates) is their idea of Club Med to them?

Perhaps they enjoy this type of carbon/methane (to us polluted) atmosphere.

*always been suspicious of the fart-sniffin' type

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 07:55 AM
vey interesting...
Now that you mention it
Andrew Jackson made the Cherokee move from their land
to get at their gold and resources
(Treaty what treaty? Davey Crockett stood against this in congress))
The March of Tears
Jackson was fighting the bankers said Jackson
this time it is being done by the bankers
they are sucking every last bit of wealth from the US

the last of the resources
then all that is left will be
the mobile -doing -units -which- consume -when -idle
and they do hate competition on the consuming part
one edt-F&S

[edit on 12-6-2010 by Danbones]

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[edit on 12-6-2010 by Danbones]

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 07:56 AM
i dont think this is the case. man is so arrogant to think that everything is controlled by man, or understandable and cotrollable by man.

no i dont think this is the case. i think they were arrogant and greedy and latched on to something that man cant control. pretty simple really.

we dont even have a grasp on dark matter but yet we are so arrogant to believe we could control almost anything in the universe.

just a wake up call to our arrogance. would also like to say, many believe we could stop an asteroid from destroying us as happened to the dinosaurs. ha, think again. that is arrogance talking. if one heads straight for us, just say good-bye. and put up the good fight, but dont be so arrogant to think you'll actually stop it.

there is many, many things in this universe. heck this world, that is out of man's control.

[edit on 06/02/2010 by letscit]

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 08:12 AM
Please, someone tell me I'm nuts?

The greatest concentration of FEMA camps is in our Southeast region.

Because of Cuba? Future plans for a huge military coast?

Or this?

Perhaps it's an opportunity to make a huge change with little resistance.

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 08:48 AM
I like the theory!, they have stated they will pay for everything and now they could move everyone out by force. Say the land is worthless and pay compensation to everyone in return for all the land and mineral rights. Then in 10 or 20 years they will own all the remaining fields, It's possible?

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 09:00 AM
Not only possible, but likely.

Many of the farmers here are not especially friendly with big corporations, big "guv'ment" or even banks, since their land is so precious and so easily lost when loans or mortgages are involved.

Chemicals also are not as common as the fertilizer companies would like.

With farming and fishing, hunting and preserving food, we are probably not buying enough "manufactured" food, holding too many guns and the skills and will to use them, and just too stubborn in our faith to be easily swayed by anyone.

Why? Because these are the things that sustained our forefathers, the things that keep the farms running successfully, or keep them from going under, being taken by banks, etc.

It would take something like this and no less, to remove the majority of people from these Southern states.

And the government knows it.

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 09:26 AM
reply to post by letscit

I honestly thought that too at first, however the problems seem to be coming one right after the other in the same geographical location.

Yes man is very arrogant and thinks he can control anything, very true.

However, you noticed how they are not trying to use anything that will eat the oil or destroy the oil? They still want the oil, and there is suppose to be a mega mega reserve of oil there. They also don't seem to be worried that it will run out anytime soon. And if according to the stories that the media let slip out, they knew there was problems with the rig in the first place and they let it happen anyway. Which in all intensive purposes that it was intended to happen.

It's just sad the way people were intentionally left to starve and die during Katrina and for awhile after Katrina. Then now when millions upon millions of people are offering to be of service to get this oil leak taken care of that they turn it away and close off the area as if it's business as usual.

If it was un-intentional wouldn't you suppose that they would accept the help and really be freaking out about what is going on?

It's weird how everyone is sooo calm about the situation, it's as if everyone is in on the plot except for us.

The president has to be told hey look pissed and sympathetic, the CEO has to be told quit acting like an arse and make it look like you are sorry, the MSM seems to freak out at the start but is happy to play a loop of the feed, and doesn't really give BP the old 1, 2...

I have been in the Media the majority of my life and trust me if they really really wanted to rain fire and brimstone on BP there would be no end to the utter destruction the media could rain, yet they are just giving us enough to satisfy our senses.

I know it could be arrogance, I respect your views. But like the Headline said it's a coincidence... And only my honest opinion. Especially since the laws on imminent domain have been coming up more and more.

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 09:29 AM
reply to post by Fakshon

In your theory, what does the government want with all that land? What use would they put it to that they can't already? And, how will it compensate with the loss of all the $$ lost in tax revenue on the land and on the businesses that operate out of that area?

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 09:47 AM
Well I have lived in Florida for six years and to tell you the truth, the oil spill is just the icing on the cake, this place was a sesspool from the beginning, the water is sulphuric, and I am allergic to it, that means when I bathe I break out, when I need water to cook with or make tea or coffee if I don't buy bottled I get terribly bad stomache viruses, they have counted no less than 100 parasites per drinking glass tested down here. The air caused me Asthma, which I did not have up north. These are all things that you'd never be clued into before actually moving down here. I wish I never would have moved, because up north our air is cleaner, the water is frigging pristine, and the land oh yeah nothing but sand and sand fleas and ants and any bug you can think of here in florida, nothing grows here, all those farms got to shell out at least thousands of dollars for top soil imported from the NE to have one thing grow here, which is not the case up north we actually have our own excellent soil. To me no big loss at all if I must move they are just helping me do something I have wanted to do since I made the mistake of moving here, when and if they purchase this land, I will gladly take it and smile because I hate this state, it's no big loss. This is the worse place I have ever lived.

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 09:49 AM
Also, did no one notice...the coincidental title of Operation Top definition:

"Top hats in Freemasonry:

In Freemasonry top hats are often associated with the position of Worshipful Master as they are the only member allowed the privelage to wear one, or another appropriate head covering to signify their leadership within the lodge. It is also common for Worshipful Masters to receive top hat related trinkets and gifts on either the day of their installation or as a going away present. [15]"

the footnote on this description:

hmmm weird indeed.

so in this case...what does 'Operation Junk Shot" mean?? aka, to 'fill the hole/gap'. Did one Masonic leader just drop dead and a new one take his place?

[edit on 12-6-2010 by dianashay]

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 10:02 AM
reply to post by ldyserenity

I heard all that! I have an uncle who used to live down there, Bradonton, and I have a lady friend who lives in Tampa. I have visited both, and travelled around the State, and I have to tell you, I don't see how anyone could live there. The Mountains are much better, the weather changes, the rain is cool and refreshing, and that water tastes good and sweet. I have no love lost for California either. I will say one thing, in reference to the OP, if this is a giant land grab, it is working. It always pays to keep a weather eye on those who seek to control.....

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 10:05 AM
reply to post by Fakshon


False flag! "Prohibition of photographing or filming the slick?" Why is elsewhere: the platform.
Why this hole on the platform? Why there are no pieces shredded upwards? (following the explosion). The hole is net. Well trimmed. (to the scalar weapon!) = Prohibition of photographing.
Everything was planned in advance. Everything was planned.
Every day a little less freedom. If 40 million people move, how they are going to be subtracted? Unable to count.

Hi !

Faux drapeau ! "Interdiction de photographier ou filmer la marée noire ?!" La raison est ailleurs: La plate-forme.
Pourquoi ce trou sur la plate-forme ? Pourquoi il n'y a pas de morceaux déchiquetés vers le haut ? (suite à l'explosion). Le trou est net. Bien découpé. (à l'arme scalaire !) = Interdiction de photographier.
Tout était prévu d'avance. Tout était planifié.
Tous les jours un peu moins de liberté. Si 40 millions de personnes déménagent, combien vont être soustraites ? Impossible à compter.

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 10:12 AM
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman

If the oil deposit is as large and all encompassing as some believe or stated then it would make sense that the Government would make a grab for this land to in turn sell to other entities.

This happens quite often with the government which uses imminent domain to grab land which in turn is sold to corporations or used by the government for their own agenda. They also use imminent domain to buy huge pieces of land which they then claim as a Nature Reserve. This is done to lock in resources so that they can only be exploited by companies chosen by the federal government and when the federal government decides to use the resources.

For example look at Alaska, the majority of the land is owned by the Federal Government protected, however a few companies have purchased pieces of the land or was given rights to use the land to extract the resources for either a kickback or other compensation.

You must also look at the amount of taxes or money in general that say a large company like BP would pay if the oil was directly owned by the federal government. In other words it comes down to money and real estate.

Real Estate is king when it comes to the world, we only have so much land available and the person or government that owns the most gets the most money.

I.E. no body in the US really owns their land, it's all the Fed Gov. we just rent it. If they ever believe that it's actually worth something significant or that they just need that piece of land, kiss your land goodbye.

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 10:15 AM
do you recall when under bush the GUV

set a precident and
used eminent domain to take a bunch of houses

the people who fought in court not only lost their houses
they had to pay the court costs
and then the takermint/givernment
gave the land to a PHARMA company

how they have used eminant domain to take land for
hiwaysand taxes to build them
and then privitized the hiways to a foreign company

[edit on 12-6-2010 by Danbones]

posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 10:28 AM
reply to post by Danbones

You are not lying brother, I remember all of that. Hell, I am from Central Texas and the massive land grabs "Eminent Domain" usages around Texas has been flying off the handle for years. Double Taxation on Roads we already paid for, Land being ripped from families that have owned the land for decades, local corruption, county corruption, state corruption, and national corruption his rampant.

Everything is crazy down here, and the funny thing is that I see it happening now up there in Louisiana and the other states. They are getting is ready for a massive land grab.

Here in Central Texas they use the same tactics but on a minor scale, we call it Pollute and Shoot. If they want a good sized piece of land next to a business (Chemical Factory, Pharma Company, Bio Company, Etc...) they will accidentally pollute the area, then offer to buy the land at a discount and wham they got some really good property for the price of a burger, fries and a coke, lol.

If for some reason that doesn't work, they will request the good old politician to condemn the property or pressure them to use eminent domain to grab the land and then purchase at a discounted price.

The same thing is going on with the Tran-Texas Corridor which if you have noticed has been mentioned on TV lately. It's funny how Ron Paul was crazy when he talked about it, then after he lost the election it really did exist. All the TV networks had to do to find out if it was real was ask, I would have shown them the huge freaking highway in the middle of nowhere. I'd also show them the new toll roads around Central Texas which was built primarily on the same roads we already paid for with local taxes, now we have to pay again just to drive on the road we paid for.

Oh well guess no one realizes they are getting punched in the face till they hit the floor.

Thanks again brother for the support of this thread.


posted on Jun, 12 2010 @ 11:19 AM
I think the spill is the wrong word its a flameing disaster

[edit on 6/12/2010 by dashar]

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