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Originally posted by justwokeup
...However, there is also a cultural difference in play...Its worth noting that Brits generally don't attach the same deep meaning to flags that americans do. For example we don't at any point in our upbringing pledge allegiance to the flag etc. (or anything else for that matter). We don't take defacement of symbols particularly seriously...
[edit on 10-6-2010 by justwokeup]
Originally posted by The Theorist
Where can I buy a European flag? I am going to burn it and put it on YouTube. Where's my lighter fluid and zippo?
Originally posted by The Theorist
Where can I buy a European flag? I am going to burn it and put it on YouTube. Where's my lighter fluid and zippo?
..... If they want to start some # with us, I'll meet them at any bar they want.
Originally posted by Freeborn
Grow up.
[edit on 12/6/10 by Freeborn]
Originally posted by Lurch
Just been sent these photos of the American flag being set alight today at a protest in Liverpool, England.
Uefa president Michel Platini has now passed rules which would force clubs to operate within their means.
Clubs will only be able to spend what they themselves generate.
Big cash injections from wealthy benefactors like the owners of Chelsea and Manchester City would also be restricted under Uefa's Financial Fair Play plan.
The system is being phased in and bans would not be able to be imposed theoretically until the 2014-15 season at the earliest.
Clubs are required to restructure themselves over the next three seasons so they are financially solvent.
Uefa general secretary Gianni Infantino said: "The main rule is the break-even requirement which will be phased in over the next three years.
"It is not as easy to swallow for everyone but everyone understands it is necessary. They are there not to punish clubs, they are there to help clubs. We don't want to kill anyone, this is why we have a phased-in approach."
But money invested in stadiums and youth development will not be included in the number-crunching.
The rules will also forbid clubs owing money to their rivals, players and staff or the tax authorities at the end of the season.
Portsmouth were a glaring example of a club which owed millions in unpaid transfer fees, image rights, tax and VAT.
Earlier this year, Infantino estimated 50% of clubs in Europe were making losses and 20% were in financial peril.
Big transfer fees can still be paid but clubs will need to generate sufficient funds through ticket sales, TV money and commercial revenue.
"If clubs want to spend €50, 60 or 70 million, why not, provided they have the money coming from their revenues, this will continue in the future. The problem is when you don't have the money," Infantino added.
Originally posted by Lurch
Just been sent these photos of the American flag being set alight today at a protest in Liverpool, England.
The protest was against the American owners of the football/soccer club Liverpool FC, who are deeply unpopular with the fans after plunging the club millions of £'s into debt and sacking popular manager Rafa Benitez earlier today.
Now I know passions get pretty high when it comes to sport, especially with football in England, but anyone else think the burning of the American flag in such a protest is completely unacceptable? Especially so soon after Memorial Weekend? What do you think? Here are the photos:
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