Nassim Haramein's Delegate Program

reply to post by Mary Rose


Perhaps real and complex fields can also be tapped into by Buddhists.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
I think Haramein's story and his approach to the pursuit of understanding are inspirational, and I suspect that his work is part of an overall paradigm shift in the pursuit of knowledge. I love the fact that he joins science with spirituality.

I hope the author of the article "Native Wisdom in a Quantum World" Glenn Aparicio Parry is correct in what he says about David Bohm's work and the merging of science with sprirituality for a better approach to understanding our universe:

. . . When Bohm speaks of the undivided wholeness of the cosmos and the superimplicate order that is behind and within all things, he invokes religious ideas of an ineffable and unknowable ground of being--Brahman, Tao, and so forth. The meeting ground for science and religion is indeed upon us. We live in very exciting times. Now is the time for dialogue across what is known as science and religion or spirituality, and between and among disciplines, in a search for what Buckminster Fuller called "comprehensivist" thinking--the largest patterned integrity that is trans-disciplinary and "wholistic" without borders, a nonhabitual, nondetermined, nonlocal thought that is connected with Spirit. . . .

reply to post by Mary Rose


You have a habit of answering your own posts. That seems strange.

reply to post by buddhasystem


Nothing strange about it at all. It's just a way to further comment on something.

reply to post by buddhasystem


No, presenting more information that is on the record for any member to respond to, or simply to be read by the world at large.

From page 40:

Originally posted by buddhasystem
I used to practice meditation for quite a while, on a regular basis, first myself, than in a Buddhist temple under the guidance of a monk.

Originally posted by buddhasystem
I do think that meditation is useful and important . . .

Originally posted by Mary Rose
Does it provide information to a scientist he/she does not get in the lab, reading, talking to others, or any other input?

From page 46:

Originally posted by Mary Rose
I never did get an answer to this question, did I?

Originally posted by buddhasystem

May be, may be not.

Meditation does help concentration and such, but it's not a source of info, as you framed it. You cannot extract data out of your meditation session.

Originally posted by Mary Rose

You make it sound as if data is the only type of info there is.

Maybe that's true for you, however.

Originally posted by buddhasystem

I used data as an interchangeable piece. Switch it to "information" if you will, or structure. If you are hoping to tap into some occult knowledge of physics... What's the word Bob likes to use? Oh, here: bollocks!

You want to learn? Go to school.

So, meditation is good for concentration, but it does not provide a unique source of information to aid a scientist seeking a unified theory. You want to learn that? Go to school.

Is this a fair paraphrase?

Either go to school or prepare to read a butt-load of books so you know what you're talking about. Otherwise you think silly things like casting out nines will give you something that breaks the laws of physics.

reply to post by 547000


You're not answering the question.

reply to post by Mary Rose


No, it is not a fair paraphrase. Dreams sometimes inspire scientists, but they follow true by justifying their theories with evidence or mathematical deduction. In almost all cases you have to study science before you can create new theories. Meditation without background is utterly useless. So yes, go to school, and once you know what the hell you're talking about even drugs can inspire you. Creativity needs to be met with rigor.

Originally posted by 547000
Meditation without background is utterly useless.

Thanks for your participation, but in my opinion, you still haven't answered the question.

Originally posted by Mary Rose

Originally posted by 547000
Meditation without background is utterly useless.

Thanks for your participation, but in my opinion, you still haven't answered the question.

No, it's not a fair paraphrase because you are leaving parts of it out.

reply to post by 547000


You're saying I left parts of your post out? When I quoted you "Meditation without background is utterly useless"?

Or are you talking about my paraphrase of the series of posts by buddhasystem?

Originally posted by Mary Rose
reply to post by 547000

 

You're saying I left parts of your post out? When I quoted you "Meditation without background is utterly useless"?

Or are you talking about my paraphrase of the series of posts by buddhasystem?

Buddhasystem. To me it's not a fair paraphrase. There's nothing special about meditation you can't get from dreams or drugs, so the point about going to school still stands.

reply to post by 547000

You're putting meditation in a category with dreams and drugs and contrasting it with going to school/experimentation.

You seem to be saying, yeah, there's something about meditation as a source.

Perhaps if we were exploring a scientist you like in this thread rather than one you don't, there would not be such a heated, unpleasant debate.

Meditation belongs in the category of dreams and drugs.

reply to post by 547000


I'm comfortable with meditation and dreams in the same category, but not drugs.

Perhaps a case can be made that a drug "opens up" the brain, or the mind, or whatever, but I don't know how we're supposed to know which insights are truth revealing itself, and which are just drug-induced chemical reactions.

Regardless, maybe one of these days someone will post about their experience with meditation as a source of inspiration for scientific endeavor. I like focusing on meditation rather than dreams, because you can choose to meditate, whereas dreams have to happen to you.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
Regardless, maybe one of these days someone will post about their experience with meditation as a source of inspiration for scientific endeavor.

Finally, I have stumbled upon a video that is exactly on-topic for my OP:

Uploaded on Feb 6, 2012

This meditation was recorded on Maui, at Nassim Haramein's Delegate Program, on January 5th, 2012. It is set to Solfeggio frequencies to aid in achieving a meditative state. In order to help align ourselves with new frequencies, Nassim Haramein recommends several activities such as eating raw organic food, re-birthing/breathwork, sun gazing, daily meditation....etc. The more heart centered we are, the easier it is to connect with our galactic brothers and sisters. Enjoy, copy, share, meditate, love...often.