reply to post by endisnighe
I don't know where you're getting these "stats" from but I suspect it's probably another classic case of some denier blog trying to fudge the
facts to fit their agenda.
An 80% reduction in CO2 emissions would certainly have a significant impact on MMGW.
The problem is though - the entire MMGW issue (especially at this point) is all about damage control. So yes, even if we reduced our emissions to zero
tomorrow - there would still be inevitable further warming thanks to delayed climatic responses and feedbacks and what not.
But the point is it's not a question of how much of a dent we make in global warming - it's a question of how big of a dent we allow it to make on
us (and everything in between).
And it's funny because all I ever see around here are claims that these "alarmist" scientists are overstating the problem and hence lying to skew
their data in line with the supposed green agenda.
But if you stop reading all the bullsh** denier propaganda for 5 minutes and start reading the actual science you'll see that in fact the only
controversy in the climate community is that the IPCC are actually being
too conservative with their projections
You'll see hints of this pop up on ATS every now and then, like for example posts on
surprise methane feedbacks being worse than we expected
. Heck sometimes even the
denial industry themselves - since they're so desperate to smear climate science any way they can - try to jump on the band wagon. Look at the way
they reference "sealevelgate
" as another supposed scandal. That
was based on IPCC under
estimates by the way.
But as for this:
So, if we cannot stop the Gulf Oil leak, how do you actually think we are going to be able to modify the weather of the entire
Because we're already modifying the weather of the entire globe. The whole point
of anti-MMGW measures is to STOP doing that.
But there are people in this world who don't want it to stop because they're making a disgusting amount of money off everything the way it is now.
These are the same people who are responsible for the oil leak and the pathetic half-assed attempts to stop it so far. These are the same people who
fund all the BS climate propaganda
that one second claims there is no problem at all
and then the next claims the problem's just too big to bother fixing anyway.
These are the same people who are absolutely thrilled to keep you convinced that Global Warming has nothing to do with social awareness, with
sustainability, with the personal FREEDOM to one day take yourself OFF OF THEIR
GRID - no it's all just Al Gore's big elaborate scheme to
steal your money. Meanwhile these are the same people already stealing your money every freaking day.
I mean - I'm not the biggest fan of cap & trade myself, but in the way you guys constantly bring it up as "taxing the air we breathe" - it seems
none of you even have the slightest clue what it's supposed to do or how it even works. You're just clearly regurgitating all the political rhetoric
like a bunch of sheep.
And even if it all was a scam at worst it would be nothing but a power grab from one corrupt system to another.
But the incumbent corrupt system is all about exploiting the planet's limited resources with reckless abandon, attacking their own people and then
using it as an excuse to start fake wars in other countries to control those limited resources, and so on.
At least the second corrupt system is predicated under a shift of our entire economy that eventually allows us to personally escape that corrupt
And that's exactly why the first is working so hard to convince you it's all a big scam that's not going to work anyway blah blah blah. Because
their only agenda is to maintain the status quo because it's working out great for them.
Meanwhile here's how it's working out for us:
So I don't know how much more ridiculously obvious it can all be. And yet you guys just keep buying into their
propaganda hook, line and
sinker - and then laughing at all the supposed "brainwashed" lefties.
The follow up question should be-what reason then is behind the scam?
Maybe it's time you stop laughing so hard and start investigating the whole story
a little more objectively - then ask yourself that question