reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi What are you talking about? During the Moscow theater seige, Spetsnaz units gassed the
building, knocking out everyone inside.
Yes I am aware of that but at the time I was also aware that on the news and in-depth conversations with so-called-experts at the time that mentioned
after the siege, the terrorists were sown into pig skin bags. The orders to sow them into these bags came from the very top. I am not imagining it or
making it up and I am talking about the Moscow siege not the borders and I am aware of the gassing and I am even aware of the casualty numbers also
but that was not my point.
Anyway not all were gassed outright... There was a firefight as some Chechens survivors managed to avoid the gass and they managed to retreat deeper
into the building and this resulting firefight then lasted for half and hour or so.
I know for a fact that at least one Chechen was taken captive because right there on TV they dragged him out front and booted him savagely to the
genitals from the rear and then dragged him off - while I crossed my legs so tightly my spine creaked like a barn door.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi They then moved in and immediately shot every terrorist where they laid in the head (they
were obvious targets since they were strapped with explosives). This is exactly why the Chechens did not make the same mistake at Beslan when they
held everyone hostage with pressure-pad detonators, meaning if Spetsnaz tried the same gas trick the place would blow to pieces... which ironically
happened anyway due to the terrorists' incompetence.
I do not recall saying otherwise or even going into the specifics of the siege other than to mention the pork bags and we all know this. I was very
very specific on the topic that I posted regarding pig skin bags.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi And "no more such crimes to take place of such a nature"? Have you watched any news about
Russia in the past five years? They have to endure militants going on shooting sprees to the south, massive hostage situations/massacres, and suicide
bombings in Moscow. I think that's much more surreal than the blatently fake "attacks" that occur within the US or UK during more than convenient
I was being specific and unless I am greatly mistaken I do not think such events such as A MOSCOW THEATER SEIGE has taken place since that day. Sorry
for the upper case but either you just haplessly bang your hands at your keyboard in patriotic indignation when you see a post you dislike or you are
not reading the post your are responding to?
As to the fake attacks you mention (and I take that to mean 711 and 911) then I most certainly agree, I see them as being false flags but that is for
Look, I am not disputing the details within your post, I agree with it and I am aware of the other terrorist attacks of course but at the same time I
was not focused on them either, my post was focused on the pig skin bags in relation to the Moscow theatre siege and the fact that there was never
another attack of such a nature to have taken place within Moscow.
Just to clarify my own stance (though I should not have to), I was not attacking your Russia, I quite admire many things about Russia so kindly climb
down off your high horse before you suffer a nose bleed and spatter me with more irrelevance.
I know about the terrorist bombings my friend; I chose not to mention them because there were no pig skin bags offered up after the fact in the
obscure and mainstream news outlets so I did not mention them. I might have thought you would have assumed that rather than more conveniently assumed
I was being ignorant of recent Russian history regarding terrorist acts on Russian soil and then taken that as a licence to start snapping and clawing
in my direction.
Patriotism is good my friend but not when it replaces objective thought or causes armies to invade foreign lands and start blasting and killing and
fighting for freedom. Patriotism is also not so good when it brings down the curtain and causes debaters to start flaming each other in forums over
misconstrued words... Anyway, you were saying?
*Edited to be less confrontational*
[edit on 18-5-2010 by SmokeJaguar67]